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The defense was more disappointing to me than the offense. We know the offense has offensive line issues, but the defense has no excuses. I know we had turnovers, but the defense was a wet paper bag. They deserve a lot of the blame. They didn't hold Duke to FGs after turnovers. What is mind...

Oh whatever man. He was only going to play I'm a emergency and I didn't pay attention to him in the game when Denis got hurt. Either way he wasn't 100% or he would have started.

I should qualify my statement. I think the "diva" mentality is within the program for the guys that come in from HS. It's like some think the logo is going to put fear into an opponent like Alabama or UGA. Need to be about the work and the team. You can be a not so talented team and play...

We have too many SF diva mentalities IMO. Ok, beef with coaches, but what you do on the field is on film for other teams and scouts. For the most part, we don't play as a team. A bunch of individuals wanting "look at me" moments. I'm old and old school. That's just a soft mentality IMO...

Which I don't understand. We have like 10-12 guys that get playing time on the D-line.

Everyone is pointing to the offense. 8 turnovers and a defense that looked like it gave up. I watched Coach Hayes Football post game show YouTube. I think the bigger problem is guys not buying in and they'll need to be purged st the end of the season.

Sure didn't look like it today in the 2nd half.

Yes, but it's not year 1 for him with a new team. Also, all this Lane stuff is pointless because Mario isn't going anywhere.

That's why I think there's a deeper issue. Forget about the offense. Look at what happened to the defense after we had a lead in the 3rd quarter. What is troubling is that we held Duke to 110 yards in the 1st half. All the 1st half points were scored off turnovers. The defense fell apart in...

Yep. With a backup QB, 3rd string center, back up guard and a tackle playing out of position. Yep, I could see that. You guys focus on the offense. The 2nd half defense was awful. Had a lead and then our defense could no longer stop Duke.

I think there is a big culture issue despite some of the questioned coaching. The players just don't seem like they've bought in. You just don't have a 2nd half collapse like that if the players are "all in" after taking the lead.

Yah, and it would have take 50 win this game. Not sure about blaming the offense with so many injuries. The defense was beyond disappointing haven given up only 110 years to Duke in the 1st half, but then can't stop them in the 2nd half after your offense gives you a lead.

So, your backup QB is to play like a starter every week without first team reps?

Can't wait for the Coach Hayes The Good, The Bad, The Ugly Duke edition.

I agree on the percentages, but stop with the Garcia to the Portal. Can't expect the backup to come in and just light things up. It's nice when they do, but you can't expect it without getting first team reps.

Does Lane play defense? My point is that the defense collapsed. The offense, we have a bunch of backups and the 3rd string center playing. Duke exploited the offensive line. I don't think it would have been any different with Lane given the injuries.