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I remember hearing that too. I put more of his problems on being on a bad team with bad coaches on a bad organization. He lacked some intangible qualities too, but still played 21 years.

Wish Dre had gotten to play with real NFL QBs. Having only four playoff games on his resume is sad.

You don’t play 21 years by coincidence. As a Cane and Bucs fan I was ecstatic the Bucs tabbed VT with the first pick, especially after the prior year’s Bo fiasco. Sadly, Ray Perkins was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach. I still think had VT gotten top NFL coaching out of college he could have been a...

Despite two bad bowl game performances Vinny is still had more physical gifts than any Miami QB, and most college QBs.

#47 was great, and #14 and #4 threw some great passes too.