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Manny and staff deserve praise for what they did with both players. I was discounting their jobs a bit because of past success with similar players. The coaches that got them where they are just as responsible.

No doubt. I wasn't trying to disrespect Mike, just giving perspective from another point of view. I actually met Mike a couple of times as a jit and didn't recognize him lol (wasn't a fan yet).

Bruh what? Your brain is hurting because you're thinking too hard. Rousseau was a freak of nature and Jaelan was the #1 player in the country. We need better development on both sides of the ball. I don't understand how me saying that is an issue.

You're right, it does even out. I didn't say that Mike was a nobody. ESPN and NFLN though? Lol these kids are on the internet. If you were a recruit would you want to hang around a 20 something NFL player or a 50+ retiree regardless of location?

I didn't say that they did... Do you think these teenagers care about that or the fact that OU is in the top 10 every year? I wasn't even alive for that lol.

I know schools like OU are using that to negatively recruit us while they have Kyler, CeeDee, Hollywood, Hurts, etc at their BBQ. I doubt those kids even know Dorsett, Perryman, Hankerson, Duke, Linder, Feliciano, Shaq, Chad, etc. Besides Rousseau and Phillips, we haven't had many All American...