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BTW, I think on one of the talking head shows I saw this weekend, the guy noted what an utter f#cking embarrassment it would be for the ACC to allow ND to waltz in for a year, win the conference title, then go back to being an independent holding the ACC championship. That would be like Brett...

I think it depends on the beatdown. A close loss, they are definitely in. If it's a 38-3 spanking like Clemson put on Miami in the ACC Championship, they're out.

With a walk on QB? F's defense didn't have much issue slowing UGA's offense. You really think UF has a better D than Miami?

I think it's entirely possible which is why my final four is Bama, Clemson, OSU, and TAMU. It's a travesty that OSU gets in without playing anything remotely resembling a full schedule, but I long ago gave up believing that NCAA or playoff committee have any interest in merit. On the bright...

I think the ACC would be willing to give ND the ACC spot in the OB, and the OB committee will also give ND the reserved ND spot, so the Orange Bowl will just be half the ND team playing the other half of the ND team. Swofford will then allow ND to keep all the bowl money, fart in his face, and...