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Rakim is in my top 5. Pull up the rap thread here, my list is on record.

Big L was better than Jay-Z, but Jay-Z was up there. He’s top 10 for me all-time. L top 3.

This Jay-Z slander needs to stop. "Dead Presidents" I and II are both great songs, as are many more Jay-Z tracks. His verse on Missy Elliott's "Is That Yo *****?" is one of the best IMO.

I agree, my favorite rapper is 2Pac and he embodied all of that while not being the best lyricist. I think he was a very underrated lyricist, but complete package he's the best in my book. I just don't find myself listening to much Snoop without Dre or much LL past the 80's. Kiss doesn't put...

What about Jadakiss? Snoop and LL aren't on his level. There's a bunch of guys I can name ahead of Snoop and LL lyrically.