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  1. Salt

    There's room for optimism-- but we still need to see more improvement

    Apparently not. I recall Manny saying something about there still being a poison that needed rooting out during fall camp. So it's not just an excuse for losing. They hadn't even start the season yet.
  2. Salt

    There's room for optimism-- but we still need to see more improvement

    neither has Jeff Thomas
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