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So then you're saying they did speak about redshirting but just came away each misunderstanding the conversation? Lo didn't say he wanted to redshirt but Manny left the conversation with the understanding that's what he was requesting? Now I'm really confused.

So just to make sure I'm clear, your belief is that Lingard never spoke to Manny about redshirting, Manny decides to just invent that story up out of absolutely nothing, and then goes and shares those specific quotes about it with the media? All the while knowing the entire thing is a complete...

And then you drop the trite "you dont know football" line. LOL I've been watching football probably since you were in diapers. Look, by all means keep blowing JT4 all you want. His "all world talent" is the greatest thing since sliced bread, its everyone and everything else's fault except his...

Talent brings nothing but POTENTIAL. From there you have to have dedication, work ethic, focus, heart. Ya'll can keep deflecting blame in every possible direction for JT4 all you want. To each their own. Me personally, I don't give a flying fvck how fast he was in high school. I've seen all I...

LOL some of you all will be talking in 2030 about how "evident" Jeff Thomas's "all world" talent is... as he's flipping burgers.

Correct. Lots of players who are in line to redshirt dress out in case they are needed. Dont know why we are belaboring this point with everything else going on, but manny wouldnt just invent that story from scratch and then run and share it with the media.

Yeah, Manny just fabricated that entire story out of thin air and shared with the press. C'mon man.

People still hyping JT4, huh? Lol man, was he fast in high school!!!!

Brevin. But your point still stands.