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Points taken, but you didn't answer my question. 6 games into Randy's tenure, we sucked and you're saying he had poor social skills and couldn't get an OC, yet you were on board with supporting him? Al & Mark chose friendship and family over the program, yet you were on board with supporting...

I gotcha...just saying this year. In years past the ACC has been a little stronger. But it's AWFUL this year. IMO Washington, Utah, Oregon, and maybe even Arizona State would all be the 2nd best team in the ACC this year. The first 3 for sure. And then to me, the average teams out west are...

How do you know we won’t get better? And why have you lost hope 6 games into year 1 more than you lost hope with Randy (4-3 in first 7 with a 40 point loss and losses to GT at home and UNC) or Golden (2-3 first 5 in year 1 with losses to Maryland, Kansas State, and VT) or Richt (4 game losing...

Agreed. The ACC this year is BY FAR the worst P5 conference. It's not even close. The ACC is very close to the AAC actually. The AAC is 6th....the metrics have the ACC (5th) much closer to that than the Pac-12 (4th).

We're more of a joke now than we've been over the past 15 years? We're more of a joke now than we were when we lost 48-0 to UVA on national TV in the last game of our sacred stadium? We're more of a joke now than we were when we were down 52-6 to Kansas State in 2012? Come on. That's simply...