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right, but you don't know unless you have the coaching and that's my point. If you start off by saying coaching sucks then you can't fairly evaluate the player. My other point is he has tremendous tools. None of what I said is refutable.

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maybe the right system and proper coaching could fix his reads and turnovers, no? If you can comprehend (very important) my original post you'd see I said he has enough arm/foot/athletic talent to, with the right coach & system, be a Heisman candidate.

none of what you say negates the premise of my post; which is, without the quallity coaching you claim Nebraska lacks you can't rip a kid for not developing. Especially one with his talent (athleticism + ability to run & throw the ball). You can neither refute the premise nor Martinez's talent.

Put him with Lincoln Riley and, yeah, he's a Heisman candidate.

How could you say they need an upgrade over a Martinez if you lead with the premise of a failed coaching staff? Not only would said player be poorly coached but the staff wouldn't have the wherewithal to develop someone else. Martinez is a tremendous talent and a Heisman candidate in the right...