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Ya, he is on the list of all the all time great Xs and Os guys LMFAO! He always beats teams he out talents. He was such a great NFL HC when talent was equal. LOL even Bama fans admit he isn't a great Xs and Os coach.

The team was clearly a lot better last year than it was in the years prior.

Yes.... And they were underclassmen. You don't think they where significantly better by last year? LOL.

I know bro I have seen you post something similar multiple times. Very good points by you as usual.

Like I said, maybe you should read the comment before responding. Clemson didn't have similar levels of talent until last year and they blew them out. They also beat them with even less talent.

That is exactly my point. Whenever he goes against teams of similar talent he loses. That proves my entire point.

Nowhere close to as loaded as Bamas team. Whatever measure you want to use Bama wins. 5 stars, 4 stars, 1st round picks, 2nd round picks. Bama had more.

If you actually read the post you would realize it isn't false. Last years Clemson team was the first time he actually had talent that was close to or as good as Bamas.

Whenever you see articles or people post about the Xs and Os gurus he is always near the top of the list.

Ya, but Butch was also one of the worst Xs and Os guys of all time and he was still able to finish 2nd in the nation. The best Xs and Os guys in the world aren't even coming close to 2nd without the talent. Of course coaches determine the programs. That is not what I am saying. I am saying the...

leach is literally the guy everyone brings up as the Xs and Os guru. Saban was the guy that couldn't hack it in the NFL because he couldn't just out talent his players.

When was the last time he outcoached a team with even close to the talent he had? Everytime he goes against a team with similar talent he loses like Clemson last year.

Don't get me wrong. Both are important, but in CFB recruiting is definitely more important. You see it every year. Coaches getting by just on talent alone. Even FSU, without that talent Willie is going 0-12, but he is able to just out talent some of these teams. The best Xs and Os guys that...

We are the number 18th most talented team in the country. I can see us finishing right around 15-20th. FSUs talent is not dispersed well and they have an absolute terrible HC. Like All time bad head coach. USC only has 6 5 stars. Clemson and Bama both have more than them, so do a few other...

The difference is the positions of their talent. Obviously no thinks a team of 75% 5 star QBs is going to win a NC. FSUs talent is not nearly dispersed as well as Clemson. Also, Willie is just beyond bad. He is not a normal "bad coach".

Leach proves you can be a great coach, but without the horses you can't win big. It is probably 75% talent 25% Xs and Os. Saban is far from a great Xs and Os guys. Neither is Dabo.