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Got it, Miami was better than OSU that year too. They were ineligible to win their division at 12-0 last I checked. Wisconsin was also better than OSU that year considering they won the division since OSU and Penn St was ineligible.

So, what you're saying is, Miami was the best team in the coastal for 2017, but in 2012, we were 2nd best.

UNC was banned for breaking the rules. Miami was banned for breaking the rules. According to conference record books, Georgia Tech won the division. 9-4 means nothing to me when you can go 4-4 in the division and not sniff the goal for your season. Talking about IFs so much, let's go ahead an...

Actually, the year Golden went 9-4, he was tied for 2nd in the division. It was 2012, when he went 5-3 on a 7-6 record that you're clamoring as comparable to Richt's 10 win season.

You doing all this to try and compare Golden going 5-3 to Richt going 7-1. Also, Golden coached in 2 bowl games and lost both of em.

So what you're saying is that he didnt win the division.

Yeah, right. The Steelers drafted and signed a speicial teams coverage guy to a 4 yr/2.3m contract. Lets disregard the fact that Mike Tomlin is on record (before the draft) saying that Chick would be converted to an outside linebacker after watching his pro-day.

Golden never won the division. That's difference enough for me

Lol. Y'all trying hard af to take those wins away from Richt.