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He was an apprentice and wasn't on his own. There's a big difference there, but certainly it's some experience. He just landed a big time guy and built a relationship. You can't complain about that, not at all. When you're up against literally the best who has a resume a mile long, you're...

Hard to disagree with the part about who we just got a verbal from. Hard to assess real recruiting these days when a big NIL deal can make a big difference. Still, Raymond in a hypothetical world would be the choice.

Sorry, you don't pass on Raymond for DVD. Respect to DVD, but he hasn't coached at all in college or even in high school. Raymond on the other hand is tops at his position in college football.

Seriously doubt he comes. He'll be waiting a long time to play, so he'll go elsewhere.