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The only truly "elite" defense that either of them ever played with was the defense that carried a broken, awful Manning to a SB in Denver. Brady played with some good defenses in his early years but none were like that Denver defense. Only Dilfer benefited from a defense as much as Manning...

Really? When their rushing leaders were Antowain Smith, Laurence Maroney, Benjarvus Green-Ellis, Steven Ridley, Legarrette Blount? When their receiving leaders were Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman? I know you can throw Randy Moss in there for a couple...

Exactly. Getting to the SB 9 times in 18 years is ridiculous regardless of who you have. And several of the times he has been to the SB are with players we would not consider studs. Put Brady on those Manning teams in Indy and they win more SBs; put Brady on those Roethlisberger teams in Pitt...

Coaching, I definitely agree. But Brady hasn't exactly been playing with stacked teams his whole career. He's carried subpar offensive teams to the Super Bowl and he's overcome subpar defensive teams to get to the Super Bowl. He is the common denominator on the field. Manning is one of the...