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true, i could have written that out explicitly. communication on topics like this isnt a strength of mine, and thats why i normally always avoid it. recent events have motivated me to change that, though. but if harrietTubmanCane interpreted my posts in the same way, then clearly thats a...

its a good discussion & its the offseason. stop whining & just make another thread.

wake up call to what exactly? timid is not fully extrapolating your point. or wanting to fully understand mine. here is what he said and i was responding to: now here's my full quote, that you pulled selectively from and misinterpreted: "i do see your point. and you certainly do not need...

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im saying exactly what i said and none of what you are assuming i said. those are your words and your thoughts filtered through your lens. and never the less, the 350k PLUS still died fighting to end slavery. how you can label that nothing is beyond me. but i suppose its easy to do when its...

wikipedia is simply an aggregation of sources. to focus on the wikipedia part of it, and not the original source its pulled from , is to miss the point.

once again, you project your own internal lens of the world onto mine. you selectively read what i wrote, only cherry picking meaning from certain parts that reinforce your imagined purpose. i dont expect this pattern to change anytime soon, but i'll continue to respond because this dialogue...

more labels & more arguments from identity. that is a sourced quote from someone who lived with and knew him at the time. any book ever written can be edited by anyone. what is your point?

i welcome you educating me on the cause(s) of the civil war then. please continue..

that's not what i implied, but based on your world view, it not surprising that this is how you interpret it. i simply stated that all of us are free to choose how to best live our lives. sometimes that choice involves deciding to not be weighed down by bitterness towards others, and to instead...

more accusations of paternalism? you realize that says much more about you than it does those whom you label with it. but again i agree with you, you dont have to be interested in facts. but these are not merely my facts. they are agreed upon facts. you are free to take aim at them...

i do see your point. and you certainly do not need to accept anyone's terms of unity. you have that choice. that was my point. and like all choices, there will be benefits and there will be costs. other black americans have chosen to not focus on such things, and have gone on to live fully...

why not give his entire history instead of just that which fits your narrative? he also represented slaves seeking freedom in court(for free), freed his own slaves, & hired them. here's an excerpt from wikipedia: "Key publicly criticized slavery's cruelties, so much that after his death a...

of course they didnt die for a song. just like the players arent protesting a song. the anthem is more than just a collection of patterned soundwaves. the moment, the melody, the the ceremony, the pageantry... the sum of the entire experience represents something more than any individual...