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So what's your point? That Clemson isn't paying players, or that we are? I'd love to see you produce some evidence of either. I've seen plenty of circumstantial evidence that Clemson is paying players, and haven't seen any that we are. I'm not saying we're not, but what's your point?

Oy vey. Your points have all been granted. If she had kept the program clean and kept the scumbag out of the house to begin with, rather than giving him her stamp of approval, we never would have been in that position to begin with. If you lay down with rats, you end up with flees. She is a...

And even I applauded her for that at the time. But c'mon man, this is silly. The NCAA got us for "lack of institutional control", and she was the head of that institution and, by her own CONSTANT appearances on TV, very involved with the athletic and especially football programs. You can't...

Clemson is a quality education for an engineering or agricultural student. It is most definitely a cut above almost all SEC schools. It is not a nice campus or interesting place to visit. The tailgating atmosphere there is great, though. Just better bring your own RV or something, cause...

Clemson is not that kind of town. It's just not. I mean, if you like hunting and fishing, A LOT, I guess I could see it. But there is nothing charming, or unique, or special about that town. It pops up from middle of nowhere rural South Carolina, and the "town" such as it is, is the campus...

Ahh yes, Donna Shalala: Arsonist, Firefighter, Hero