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Yeah, things tend to work themselves out over a career and he's obviously a great player. You just don't yourself any favors taking shortcuts.

Yeah well clearly they didn't show enough. I knew it, NFL scouts knew it, seems like most people knew it except them. They got greedy and wanted money before being as best prepared as they could've been. Most jobs in this country worth having require internship/apprenticeship. You don't...

How do you know that? Both of these guys are 3 years out of high school. It's almost unheard of to come out as a defensive lineman this early, these guys made a horrible decision. Both had a lot of promise, and maybe they wouldn't have been top 15 picks next year but we wouldn't be sitting...