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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

Cane6 said:
You all realize the minute that the ACC and ESPN try to lower any tv payouts that opens the door for every other school to leave, that’s in addition to the precedent set by whatever exit fee gets negotiated by FSU and Clemson

I know some of you have argued that FSU’s deal doesn’t apply to any remaining ACC school, but in reality it does…. From a contract law standpoint
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Anybody can leave ... having a landing spot in the P2 is the issue.
 
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Rellyrell said:
“But the Regents began to ask questions because U.C.L.A.’s departure would result in a financial hit for a sister school, the University of California, Berkeley. Its revenue from a Pac-12 television contract would be reduced by millions of dollars because the conference would be losing the Los Angeles market.”

This is a direct quote. On top of that, I know for a certain Carol Christ was blindsided by the news of UCLA departing & they were looking for immediate recourse from the UC Board of Regents. There was even speculation that maybe there was a little bit of favoritism going on b/c there wasn’t an immediate outrage from The UC President, who overlapped w/ UCLA’s AD while they were both at Ohio State.

So:

1. I have no idea why u’re bringing up all those UC Schools, when:
-Not one of them r in the Power 5/4 Conference &
-None of them have D-1 Football programs, & r zero factors in any conference expansion decision, as I stated.

2. I actually have connections, like legit connections which is why I tend to drop Easter eggs all over CIS well b4 chit happens. I live in PAC-12 country, in the heart of PAC-12 country actually, & I’m deeply connected to both SC & UCLA due to infamous alumni that are in my circle.

I know for a certain when UCLA made the move, The Regents were upset primarily for Cal b/c Cal was like ‘WTF; what about us?’ They’ve been at the hip since 1928. The UC HQ in the backyard of Cal, & Newsome immediately wanted to know how all of this would affect Cal. To appease The Regents, UCLA agreed to pay between $2 - $10m to Cal. They now r pushing $10m b/c Cal had to come to the ACC at a discounted rate, not being a full member + Cal has its own financial issues.

In essence, The Regents r trying to punish UCLA b/c Cal is affected due to them not finding suitable financial stability from a conference. If Cal went to the B1G as well, do u actually think The Regents would have an issue of a “courtesy notice?”

Everything u’re stating has already been discussed pages ago, but that’s neither here nor there. At the end of the day, the crux of the matter is about revenue, period. UCLA AD has been operating in the red & the PAC-12 offered zero incentives for UCLA to stay. UCLA athletics have debt upon debt, so yes the move to the B1G was by far the most beneficial. The Regents couldn’t do **** to keep UCLA in the PAC-12 b/c the PAC-12 was a **** stain conference corrupted by **** poor decision makers, so what r u talking about?

U’re acting as if the PAC-12 didn’t just implode on itself. So again, I have no idea regarding any of what u posted.
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1. Your quote: "There’s only two UC schools in D1 sports, L.A & Cal. Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, Riverside, Irvine, San Diego, Merced, & San Francisco can give two fcks about this; none of them r affected by UCLA, but Berkeley." I clarified- there are actually 6 D1 UC schools. Only 2 play D1A/FBC football. But thinking the rest don't care about $$ would be a mistake.
2. Glad you have connections. The back story is, however, somewhat well known. I didn't pay attention to 780 prior pages, don't know why you think the Chancellor of Berkeley is bigger than the Board of Regents but she isn't, and heard all the public newspaper quotes as well as some of the reports of the negotiations that weren't published. Regents weren't punishing UCLA so much as they were reminding them that UCLA does answer to the Regents. But, you are 100% right that everything about the move, and the Regents approval, was about revenue. The budget numbers that are about to be released will be further proof that the State had no desire to put bailing out the UCLA athletic dept. as a priority.
 
Rickd said:
Anybody can leave ... having a landing spot in the P2 is the issue.
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Rickd said:
Anybody can leave ... having a landing spot in the P2 is the issue.
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I still standby my statement on Miami to BigTen being an all but certainty

Clemson filing suit behind FSU doesn’t mean that they (Clemson) have a spot in the P2 ahead of Miami simply because they filed snd Miami didn’t
 
Cane6 said:
You all realize the minute that the ACC and ESPN try to lower any tv payouts that opens the door for every other school to leave, that’s in addition to the precedent set by whatever exit fee gets negotiated by FSU and Clemson

I know some of you have argued that FSU’s deal doesn’t apply to any remaining ACC school, but in reality it does…. From a contract law standpoint
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Nope. Wrong.
 
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Cane6 said:
Suuuuuureeeeee okay.

The leftover ACC schools are at the mercy of whatever financial terms the ACC and ESPN decide to offer
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What a dopey response.

And stop conflating issues.

First, as to the TV deal, there have always been terms in the TV contract that could INCREASE the payout (i.e., Notre Dame joins the ACC) or LOWER the payout (i.e., the most desirable schools leave the ACC). It's not arbitrary. ESPN isn't going to "lower the payout" out of spite. They would do it because they are ALLOWED to do it by the terms of the contract and the reality of the situation. That doesn't "open the door" for every other school to exit with no penalty.

Second, as to the ACC Constitution and the exit fee, negotiating with F$U/Clemson doesn't establish a legal precedent or price. If that was true, then we could all just cite "Maryland" and offer to pay a minimal exit fee.

You are in the group of misguided and misinformed porsters who like to spout things like "let F$U and Clemson do all the heavy lifting" and "why should we spend any money right now".

Miami needs to file suit. Immediately. We are not going to have a Big 10 landing spot by being cheap, cowardly pussies who think that F$U/Clemson will magically make our exit easier.

That's like a prisoner thinking "hey, once that other prisoner escapes, I'm just going to be able to walk out the front door".
 
Gennaker Cane said:
1. Your quote: "There’s only two UC schools in D1 sports, L.A & Cal. Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, Riverside, Irvine, San Diego, Merced, & San Francisco can give two fcks about this; none of them r affected by UCLA, but Berkeley." I clarified- there are actually 6 D1 UC schools. Only 2 play D1A/FBC football. But thinking the rest don't care about $$ would be a mistake.
2. Glad you have connections. The back story is, however, somewhat well known. I didn't pay attention to 780 prior pages, don't know why you think the Chancellor of Berkeley is bigger than the Board of Regents but she isn't, and heard all the public newspaper quotes as well as some of the reports of the negotiations that weren't published. Regents weren't punishing UCLA so much as they were reminding them that UCLA does answer to the Regents. But, you are 100% right that everything about the move, and the Regents approval, was about revenue. The budget numbers that are about to be released will be further proof that the State had no desire to put bailing out the UCLA athletic dept. as a priority.
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This is a conference alignment thread regarding the effects of conference re-alignments, which is driven by CFB & The P5. I thought it was pretty clear that’s what this thread was about.

Lastly, I never said anything about Berkeley’s Chancellor being bigger than The Regents; I’m merely pointing out that if Cal was invited to a conference garnishing them equal or comparable revenue, none of this is an issue. This wasn’t an issue of UCLA leaving the PAC-12, b/c the PAC-12 was going to implode regardless due to ineptitude from its last two commissioners; this boiled down to how was Cal affected by all of this, which is why this is dubbed the Cal Tax alias Calimony.
 
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Is Miami leaving the ACC for the Big10 or SEC? I don't know, what I DO know is where to get the best deep dish pizza.

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