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Those were crap OSU teams.Do a little research
Those were crap OSU teams.Do a little research
didnt Jimbo have just 1 loaded class, and alot of them didnt pan out.....or am i mistaken?Bags are crucial for consistent success, but coaches and players still gotta get it done.
Fisher had the best recruiting classes money could buy and went 10-13 in the SEC his last three seasons.
Yeah but that team was incredibly talented. They literally went undefeated the next year with the same guys. With the logic of talent vs coaching I mean...Those were crap OSU teams.
I don't remember the years. Was the QB the same too? I just remember him not being very good when we played them.Yeah but that team was incredibly talented. They literally went undefeated the next year with the same guys. With the logic of talent vs coaching I mean...
I just checked. All of his classes except for his first (17th) were top 10.didnt Jimbo have just 1 loaded class, and alot of them didnt pan out.....or am i mistaken?
Yeah same QB Braxton Miller. But you are correct they were trash. They did have Luke Fickell as the head coach.I don't remember the years. Was the QB the same too? I just remember him not being very good when we played them.
Yeah but that team was incredibly talented. They literally went undefeated the next year with the same guys. With the logic of talent vs coaching I mean...
Braxton got in the game. No D made him look like a *****.Wasn't that the year a bunch of dudes were suspended and they started True Freshman Braxton Miller when they should've had Terrell Pryor?
Correction, they started walk-on Joe Bauserman
close to top 5 or bottom? pauseI just checked. All of his classes except for his first (17th) were top 10.
I don't know. Mario hasn't proven he can beat teams he already has a decided talent advantage over.
What's to learn from Jimbo? Talent alone doesn't get the job done. You have to coach it up, and put it in the right position to make plays that lead to winning games. So far, Mario has not shown he can do that. Building a roster is not the same thing as building a winner. This is my biggest concern with him.
Our 2001 team is a good example of what happens when you build it right. Butch Davis built a monster so dominant, a coaching staff full of first timers could win a title with it. They were disciplined, talented, and hard working. They did things right. Not simply because they were more talented, but because they were better coached. I have yet to look at a Mario team and say, "They look better coached than the other team." That concerns me.
Here's hoping that starts to change this year
Jimbo is a bad example because everyone is leaving out the fact that yea he signed a bunch of top 10 classes but so did almost everyone else in his conference lol The Sec is the only conference were you can sign a Top 10 class in the country and still not be top 3 in the conference. You keep signing top 10 classes in the acc and its going to be hard to not win atleast 9 games a seasonI don't know. Mario hasn't proven he can beat teams he already has a decided talent advantage over.
What's to learn from Jimbo? Talent alone doesn't get the job done. You have to coach it up, and put it in the right position to make plays that lead to winning games. So far, Mario has not shown he can do that. Building a roster is not the same thing as building a winner. This is my biggest concern with him.
Our 2001 team is a good example of what happens when you build it right. Butch Davis built a monster so dominant, a coaching staff full of first timers could win a title with it. They were disciplined, talented, and hard working. They did things right. Not simply because they were more talented, but because they were better coached. I have yet to look at a Mario team and say, "They look better coached than the other team." That concerns me.
Here's hoping that starts to change this year.
Wouldn't matter if his defense wasn't cheeks. Could've sworn all that money went mostly to defense, just for them to not field a top 15 squad. Offense scored 33ppgThe lesson is don't let your starting QB get hurt. He needed to change things but is Weigman doesn't get hurt their season looks a lot different.
U think Bain would have ruined his stock if he went to JSU? Dude is just a beast that can develop anywhere. You get the right players then that development myth goes awayWhat about development? I know our structure is improving but how can you go against the development of Bama as an NFL factory whereas we are destroying player’s chances of getting drafted (granted a lot of our NFL prospects have self sabotaged hy plaij ducking or not testing well).
What about development? I know our structure is improving but how can you go against the development of Bama as an NFL factory whereas we are destroying player’s chances of getting drafted (granted a lot of our NFL prospects have self sabotaged hy plaij ducking or not testing well).
Amazing how Mario became a great recruiter while at Alabama... that all his guys played for free while Alabama was paying the rest of them is really something ...This tells you all you need to know. Guys basically say saban paid them. There’s a reason he quit once the field was leveled.
Here’s a Mario led team going into the Shoe and beating a team with more talent pretty **** convincingly:I don't know. Mario hasn't proven he can beat teams he already has a decided talent advantage over.
What's to learn from Jimbo? Talent alone doesn't get the job done. You have to coach it up, and put it in the right position to make plays that lead to winning games. So far, Mario has not shown he can do that. Building a roster is not the same thing as building a winner. This is my biggest concern with him.
Our 2001 team is a good example of what happens when you build it right. Butch Davis built a monster so dominant, a coaching staff full of first timers could win a title with it. They were disciplined, talented, and hard working. They did things right. Not simply because they were more talented, but because they were better coached. I have yet to look at a Mario team and say, "They look better coached than the other team." That concerns me.
Here's hoping that starts to change this year.
Here’s a Mario led team going into the Shoe and beating a team with more talent pretty **** convincingly:
that said he lost a few games at Oregon, on paper he shouldn’t had. He also won 2 conference titles. He hasn’t done **** at Miami. Miami also had been boarder-line mediocre for 20 years. The talent acquisition going on right now is among the best in the nation. With all the Miami hate going around rn we must be doing something right this offseason
On paper A&M was by a significant margin the strongest team that we faced last year.I just checked. All of his classes except for his first (17th) were top 10.
Also if the bulk of your players are round 7 or UDFA they won’t stay. NIL $ is good now. But guys want to be drafted in guaranteed rounds. And not one per year. Multiple.If Mario can't win, there won't be donors or NIL money to disperse. I agree with TY but ultimately, that's a short-term fix. You can't sell kids on NIL and potential forever.