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    MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

    Good questions. For what its worth, I don’t feel like ESPN will enact the composition clause and I think even with FSU and Clemson gone, the remaining ACC, with Stanford, Clemson and SMU will be market value for ESPN… it just won’t be the great value it was before. I don’t think Miami will...
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    What makes us so confident that ESPN will definitely enact the composition clause if they allow FSU and Clemson to leave? The ACC deal was a huge value for ESPN. Even if FSU and Clemson leave, are we sure ESPN won’t still see value in ACC, especially if ACC can add another team or two? I...
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    My main takeaway here is there is a very likely path for the ACC to survive post FSU/Clemson. The ACC is going to do all it can to stick around and try to beat out B12 as the long term biggest non P2 conference. Totally see them trying to woo USF or UCF to replace FSU. I think long term...
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    I hope you’re right. I just don't have a lot of confidence in things working out smoothly in terms of our exit. FSU and Clemson leaving wont be deathblow to ACC because the ACC will be able to entice remaining members to stay. The only school that would have a STRONG P2 possibility among...
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    I have little faith in ACC leadership with the backdoor deals they have done in past. So do I think State of NC is going to subsidize UNC directly? No. But I wouldn’t be shocked at a scenario where the state of NC will give money to ACC to host their tournaments there and in a n head nod/wink...
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    ACC and FSU and Clemson are headed for divorce. IMHO, the ACC will let them go and instead focus their fight on not letting any other schools out, especially Miami for fear of total implosion. And I think the remaining institutions will vote and PASS new agreements making it harder to leave...
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    The more that comes out, the more I think it will be SEC. But what would keep/make B1G happy?
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    MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

    I see a lot of comments suggesting that if we go to playoffs this year, we will definitely be in P2 - from my limited view, I think whatever moves are going to happen, are going to happen way before next football season takes place. Seems to me that state of NC is going to do work to keep ACC...
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    If ND decides time to join B1G, they can name their terms and B1G wouldnt blink. That includes bringing Stanford as their partner, even at a reduced rate. Once upon a time, it seemed Miami would be ND partner, especially the longer ND wanted to stay independent. But ND fighting for ACC to take...
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    If FSU and Clemson go to SEC, Miami will end up in B1G. No doubt. The question would be “when”. And as someone mentioned earlier, there will be no rush to add teams after this inital wave happens. If ESPN allows ACC to stay on the ventilator by still opting into extension once the first 2...
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    Bubba got some ‘splaining to do to his BOT. This probably shines light on the UNC BOT as to whether they desperately wanted to keep status quo (definitely doesn’t sound that way) Wouldn’t surprise me if UNC is working behind the scenes in the same manner that Clemson was before they just filed...
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    MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

    From what I have read in the last few pages is this… FSU and Clemson will likely bounce once these proceedings start to take off (discovery/venue rulings should tip everyone off as to how that will play out). That said, ACC definitely sees itself as a conference long term, and they appear to...
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    I figured ACC and Big12 would fold against P2 bluff. They rather eat at the kids table than not eat at all.
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    Gotta think D-day is when judge rules on venue and discovery requests. If it goes FSU’s way, the ACC (at the request of ESPN) would be smart to quickly cut bait with teams that have a place to go now and work to salvage a reimagined ACC/G5 conference - ESPN can make them the highest paid G5...
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    Just my .02… but I think this nuclear option thats being discussed is really a threat by P2 conferences to get what they want and if they do, they won’t break away, just as long as the P2 get the lions share of the money and the only 2 seats at the grown folks table. ACC, Big12 and the G5 will...
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    In hindsight, we should have seen USC and UCLA going to Big 10. I don’t think we anticipated the market drying up for the other 3 conference media rights so quickly (ACC, Big 12 and Pac 10). If nothing else, I think you have to give kudos for USC/UCLA working with the networks to help facilitate...
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    MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

    Networks will have certain say such as 1. Who plays who in the marquee TV timeslots 2. Hellping the conferences fill out their roster of teams from teams not currently associated with the P2. 3. Maybe subtlely help when it comes to actual conference distribution rates. Right now shares are...
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    MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

    okay. the networks are going to hold a fantasy draft, gotcha.
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    The B1G is not going to kick out OG B1G members for the likes of Utah, Vtech and West Virginia, lmao… both B1G and SEC are going to operate independantly of each other but collab on the postseason tourney. So I doubt B1G would be able to get Texsa, A&M as part of some fantasy draft. If the B1G...
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    MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

    This is a game of chicken - there is a big pot of money in the middle and the P2 has put ACC/Big12 to a decision… Call P2 bluff and hope they aren’t drawing dead against P2 winning hand (breakaway from the NCAA) or fold and let P2 take the pot and cripple them in significantly. Going to go...
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