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He will join a long list of former Canes.

I fully expect everyone to go Day 3 with Lee or Cohen being the possible exception.

Him/Shim/Them prefers the term clown.

Does your logic include the fact that at least 12 of the 14 draft eligble portal players went undrafted. Does your deductive reasoning account for the at best 4 out of 28 portal players being drafted(2022,2023). Or the maybe 7 out of close to 37 after this season (2022-24). That is an alarming...

So the most extreme extent is the only other option available? I personally would settle for better, but yes, on a scale of the impossible, Mario doesn't measure up.

You dismiss a very large portion of Mario's job that I dont agree with. That is the root of your issues with my sentiment. We could have had better players on our team via recruiting or the portal. I do not hold Manny accountable for that. I'm not rehashing all this over with you. If you...

I couldn't have made a better argument.

THE PORTAL KIDS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THE PORTAL USAGE HAS BEEN BAD. THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN 💩. EVERYONE USES THE PORTAL, WE USE IT WRONG. ok now tell me how Ward invalidates all of this because he is the only one that falls outside this category. AFTER 3 YEARS

I'm chilling until October. When I see it for good or bad I will know. I learned to "never count a dub early" at a young age. After year 1 Manny as an excuse was just kind of sad. After 2 years it was gross. If we get to year 3 and any mention of Manny still exists it's pathetic.

Garvin scored higher than Parson he should have been an All-Pro.

You mean being a perennial top 10 team is better than finishing near .500 every year? This may be the wildest **** you tried to pull on CIS. I need to see more data to confirm.

Biggest loss from 2023.

That is nice

I don't see on field results to support this claim. I see a lot of good starters. I see a lot of high ranked lineman. I see few bona-fide starters and even fewer difference makers. We might have 6 draftable guys next year majority being Day 3 "again". The biggest thing I see after 3 years...

That's why I said this is the year for me. The rankings are cool but that isn't criteria I care about.