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Now give us Clemson's defensive SP+. I'll give you their overall... it was 23. Nine wins, top 20 team in the final polls, and top 25 in SP+. That's a quality win. You want to talk about games that "matter" and, now games that are "meaningful"? Well, I don't know what that means to you...

Clemson still finished 2023 with 9 wins and a top 20 ranking. Certainly a down year for Clemson compared to their last decade, but that was still a pretty good football team we beat. No argument on TAMU; that was a toxic dumpster fire of a team... in hindsight arguably the fifth-best team we...