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That's a factor in the formulation of my opinion. We KNOW Gattis was a major problem. The fact that Ponce openly disassociated himself from Gattis told me that Ponce knows what competency is and that he was not working for a competent manager. Many of us who've been in mid- high level...

I have no inside knowledge but my guess all along was that coach Ponce was never the problem. His immediate supervisor was.

Mario practicing the laws of power in recruiting: "When you come upon a poet, recite poetry. When you come upon a swordsman, draw your sword." When you visit an O lineman, eat barbecue. When you visit a quarterback, eat quinoa. :beedog2: