So, gunshot deaths are COVID deaths now

For_The_U

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How can you utter the words "Our dashboard reflects anyone who died, who tested positive for COVID, irrespective of cause of death" without realizing how absolutely asinine that is?!? Jesus. Smh.

This has become definitional insanity, folks.
 

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How can you utter the words "Our dashboard reflects anyone who died, who tested positive for COVID, irrespective of cause of death" without realizing how absolutely asinine that is?!? Jesus. Smh.

This has become definitional insanity, folks.
For the purposes of daily reporting, it's easier to do from a data standpoint. Otherwise, they'd be revising numbers constantly and getting a million accusations of fudging the numbers. The final tally will be the only one that counts.

This is why those numbers always should have been taken with a grain of salt, but the news people who should have been adding context have been more worried about some trivial aspect that can be connected to politics.
 

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For the purposes of daily reporting, it's easier to do from a data standpoint. Otherwise, they'd be revising numbers constantly and getting a million accusations of fudging the numbers. The final tally will be the only one that counts.

This is why those numbers always should have been taken with a grain of salt, but the news people who should have been adding context have been more worried about some trivial aspect that can be connected to politics.
Ok, that is very well explained. So then the problem is not the current numbers themselves (assuming they properly revise them), the problem is why those numbers are presented to America as "how many people has COVID-19 killed".
 

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There was a post on a thread recently showing a chart of excess deaths compared to expected deaths. I think that's the relevant number to look at to see the severity of Covid. The rest is noise.
 

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When I saw articles on MSM about the "Data Chief" who built the dashboard being fired for insubordination, I laughed my azz off.

"Data Chief".... Making a little dashboard lolololol.. Anyone in IT knows this is ratarted.
 

AmherstCane

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Excess deaths is the only reliable metric currently.

“data on excess deaths in the United States over the past several months suggest that COVID-19 deaths are probably being undercounted rather than overcounted.”

 
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Excess deaths is the only reliable metric currently.

“data on excess deaths in the United States over the past several months suggest that COVID-19 deaths are probably being undercounted rather than overcounted.”

LOL - inferring causes of death using historical death rates is almost the exact opposite of scientific precision.

A lot of guessing and use of the words “suggest”, “possible”, “could” in this article.

This is straight up an opinion piece.

”Under-counting” using a derived number, is basically a guess. You can use the same guessing rationale to say that deaths have been significantly over-counted. In fact one can make the argument, there’s harder data, based on instructions for counting Covid deaths, that the deaths have been over counted and not under counted. This is hilarious.
 
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