NCAA looking to cut football scholarships (not UM)

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INDIANAPOLIS -- As part of sweeping changes stemming from a Presidential retreat in August, an NCAA working group will
recommend to the organization's Board of Directors that FBS-level football scholarships be cut from 85 to 80 starting in 2014.
The proposal was among the most controversial to be discussed at a Division I session Friday morning at the annual NCAA convention,
with several school leaders quite outspoken about the issue.

"What you see with these proposals is an effort to restrain spending at the expense of student-athletes," Harvey Perlman,
chancellor of Nebraska, said. "The working group says if you reduce scholarships and other expenses you can reallocate it to other
things for student-athletes. But the problem is, I don't know of an athletic department that won't spend every penny it has.
"I just think this is bad publicity and I think it's bad policy."

Georgia president Dr. Michael Adams chaired the group responsible and was put in the precarious position of leading the
charge of several unpopular measures."Of all the things I've done the last 30 years at the NCAA, this is the most unpopular.
I have the scars to show for it," Adams said. "There's a notion that we are a runaway train in Division I with less regard for
student-athletes than the people who are making the exorbitant salaries. We need to put a stake down somewhere."
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RiDLer80

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At damn near every school the football program is the only sports program that makes a profit. Hell, I even saw a couple years back or maybe last year that even Duke basketball had a negative profit margin. Why would you want to weaken your cash cow?
 

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Cut? ***** they shoud increase up to 100
 

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RankSchoolRevenueExpensesProfit
1University of Texas (Football)$93,942,815$25,112,331$68,830,484
2Univ. of Georgia (Football)$70,838,539$18,308,654$52,529,885
3Penn State Univ. (Football)$70,208,584$19,780,939$50,427,645
4Univ. of Michigan (Football)$63,189,417$18,328,233$44,861,184
5Univ. of Florida (Football)$68,715,750$24,457,557$44,258,193
6Louisiana State Univ. (Football)$68,819,806$25,566,520$43,253,286
7Univ. of Alabama (Football)$71,884,525$31,118,134$40,766,391
8Univ. of Tennessee (Football)$56,593,946$17,357,345$39,236,601
9Auburn Univ. (Football)$66,162,720$27,911,713$38,251,007
10University of Oklahoma (Football)$58,295,888$20,150,769$38,145,119
11Univ. of South Carolina (Football)$58,266,159$22,794,211$35,471,948
12Notre Dame (Football)$64,163,063$29,490,788$34,672,275
13University of Nebraska (Football)$49,928,228$17,843,849$32,084,379
14Ohio State Univ. (Football)$63,750,000$31,763,036$31,986,964
15Univ. of Iowa (Football)$45,854,764$18,468,732$27,386,032
16Michigan State Univ. (Football)$44,462,659$17,468,458$26,994,201
17Univ. of Arkansas (Football)$48,524,244$22,005,104$26,519,140
18Texas A&M (Football)$41,915,428$16,599,798$25,315,630
19Univ. of Kentucky (Football)$31,890,572$13,905,724$17,984,848
20Oklahoma State (Football)$32,787,498$15,479,410$17,308,088
21University of Louisville (Basketball)$25,890,003$9,089,769$16,800,234
22Univ. of Wisconsin (Football)$38,662,971$22,041,491$16,621,480
23Univ. of Mississippi (Football)$28,409,774$11,920,510$16,489,264
24West Virginia University (Football)$29,467,612$14,330,236$15,137,376
25Univ. of Minnesota (Football)$32,322,688$17,433,699$14,888,989
26Virginia Tech (Football)$31,155,870$16,302,767$14,853,103
27Univ of Washington (Football)$33,919,639$19,207,560$14,712,079
28Clemson Univ. (Football)$30,994,503$16,305,528$14,688,975
29Duke (Basketball)$26,667,056$12,286,475$14,380,581
30Univ. of Illinois (Football)$25,301,783$11,092,122$14,209,661
31North Carolina (Basketball)$20,551,168$6,647,459$13,903,709
32University of Colorado (Football)$26,233,929$12,558,503$13,675,426
33Univ of Arizona (Basketball)$19,285,038$5,806,535$13,478,503
34Ohio St. (Basketball)$16,190,723$4,554,908$11,635,815
35University of Missouri (Football)$25,378,066$13,759,649$11,618,417
36North Carolina State (Football)$22,018,738$10,408,938$11,609,800
37Arizona State (Football)$29,587,236$17,977,987$11,609,249
38Texas Tech (Football)$26,201,009$14,688,382$11,512,627
39Univ of Oregon (Football)$29,505,906$18,071,012$11,434,894
40Univ of Arizona (Football)$24,398,253$13,685,931$10,712,322
41Syracuse University (Basketball)$18,309,470$8,086,376$10,223,094
42Wisconsin (Basketball)$17,666,311$7,539,418$10,126,893
43Illinois (Basketball)$14,413,222$4,980,589$9,432,633
44Georgia Tech (Football)$24,870,064$15,519,206$9,350,858
45Indiana Univ. (Football)$21,783,185$12,822,779$8,960,406
46Indiana (Basketball)$16,570,158$7,653,945$8,916,213
47Univ. of Arkansas (Basketball)$15,515,830$6,839,213$8,676,617
48Univ of Southern California (Football)$29,080,117$20,820,468$8,259,649
49Minnesota (Basketball)$13,733,316$5,692,149$8,041,167
50Michigan St. (Basketball)$16,138,167$8,250,450$7,887,717
51Univ. of North Carolina (Football)$22,077,550$14,788,287$7,289,263
52North Carolina State (Basketball)$10,354,157$3,104,152$7,250,005
53Oregon State (Football)$19,056,237$11,981,026$7,075,211
54University of Pittsburgh (Basketball)$13,117,849$6,046,724$7,071,125
55Univ of California, Los Angeles (Football)$22,298,856$15,261,681$7,037,175
56Northwestern Univ. (Football)$22,704,959$15,733,548$6,971,411
57West Virginia University (Basketball)$13,306,654$6,377,761$6,928,893
58Univ. of Tennessee (Basketball)$13,301,579$6,478,312$6,823,267
59
Univ. of Miami (Football)
$24,631,029
$17,863,218$6,767,811
60University of Texas (Basketball)$15,602,348$8,887,250$6,715,098
61Iowa State (Football)$19,974,924$13,368,441$6,606,483
62Kansas State (Football)$17,570,624$11,157,789$6,412,835
63Purdue Univ. (Football)$18,118,898$11,821,265$6,297,633
64Univ of Washington (Basketball)$11,481,376$5,372,380$6,108,996
65Univ of California, Los Angeles (Basketball)$12,353,487$6,277,088$6,076,399
66Univ of California, Berkeley (Football)$24,421,437$18,519,523$5,901,914
67Northwestern (Basketball)$10,048,801$4,158,854$5,889,947
68Marquette (Basketball)$13,877,475$8,185,030$5,692,445
69Maryland (Basketball)$10,739,282$5,160,381$5,578,901
70Georgia Tech (Basketball)$9,143,914$3,873,987$5,269,927
 

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I was under the assumption that very few athletic programs overall turn a profit because of title IX. The football programs make a profit but they are forced to dump a lot of money into other womens sports programs to even out the scholarships to make it represent the male/female ratio of the university.
 

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Just let the top twenty pull their football programs out of the NCAA, and see how fast this crap changes.

Pull the top forty football programs out of the NCAA sanctioned activities and go alone, and some folks in the NCAA will vapor lock on the spot.

It's the do-nothings and have-nothings that may go along with this crap.

So, let the money take itself down the road.

End of problem.
 

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INDIANAPOLIS -- "What you see with these proposals is an effort to restrain spending at the expense of student-athletes," Harvey Perlman,
chancellor of Nebraska, said. "The working group says if you reduce scholarships and other expenses you can reallocate it to other
things for student-athletes. But the problem is, I don't know of an athletic department that won't spend every penny it has.
"I just think this is bad publicity and I think it's bad policy."

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LOL at the Nebraska chancellor being amongst the crowd pushing for scholarship reductions.
I bet you the vast majority of the schools that want this come from states where they have relatively local prep talent, and
thus a bigger share of the kids from Cal, Texas, Florida and other big football states.
What a bunch of self-serving tripe, especially from someone representing a school that makes a ton of money.
 

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This makes no sense. Schools aren't going broke with the extra 5 football scholarships, but every time you lower this amount of scholarships out there, you run the risk of forcing younger/less ready players on the field and increase the chance of them getting hurt, as well as putting out a lesser quality product. I realize it would probably level the playing field even more than it already is by spreading the talent out, but it would also force come coaches to get cutthroat with players not living up to expectations and cutting cut.....so overall, i don't see a benefit to it at this point.

Oh, and again the big public universities would benefit b/c they have a much easier time getting walkons.....if there was a scholarship reduction, the first kids to feel it would be kickers. Those kids can walk-on at a 10-15k per year state school a lot easier than a 40k private one.
 

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This makes no sense. Schools aren't going broke with the extra 5 football scholarships, but every time you lower this amount of scholarships out there, you run the risk of forcing younger/less ready players on the field and increase the chance of them getting hurt, as well as putting out a lesser quality product. I realize it would probably level the playing field even more than it already is by spreading the talent out, but it would also force come coaches to get cutthroat with players not living up to expectations and cutting cut.....so overall, i don't see a benefit to it at this point.

Oh, and again the big public universities would benefit b/c they have a much easier time getting walkons.....if there was a scholarship reduction, the first kids to feel it would be kickers. Those kids can walk-on at a 10-15k per year state school a lot easier than a 40k private one.
Exactly.
This is nothing but a ploy from the presidents of the large state schools that have relatively low tuition, and have to rely on recruiting out-of-state talent.
Schools like Nebraska, Iowa, Iowa States, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Tennessee, Kansas, Kansas States,etc.

Unfortunately, I can envision the dumbass leadership at the UM championing this proposal in order to save some bucks.
 

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It's about the students first, so let's have less students. What BS. The southpark episode got it right when they said the NCAA is origanized slavery. I don't think it is that extreme, but student athletes are basically forced through such strict restrictions to have nothing, and they make millions for their labor. It is complete BS.
 

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Nothing would make me happier than to see student athletes boycott against this.
 

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It's about the students first, so let's have less students. What BS. The southpark episode got it right when they said the NCAA is origanized slavery. I don't think it is that extreme, but student athletes are basically forced through such strict restrictions to have nothing, and they make millions for their labor. It is complete BS.
I wonder why so many of these kids choose slavery. :confused:

They don't have to take a football scholarship. They could try the path of every other high school graduate in the country. Lots of luck with that.
 

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On balance, when the NCAA went from unlimited to 93 scholarship football players. It did wonders for college football. For the 1st time Texas couldnt quietly recruit all of the top 10 HS QBs without them knowing about the other ones until they got on campus. OU would recruit every linebacker available just to bury them on their roster so other schools couldnt get them.


Then the NCAA went from 93 to 85 scholarship football athletes (in the early 90's, IIRC). That led to the growth of the mid-major teams. The overall sport of CFB gained in value from that move.

If they go from 85 to 80, I expect it to bring more parity to the sport, which will most likely force the hand of those who want a playoff system.
 

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This led by big state schools out in the sticks like Nebraska who can then rely on a 100 walk-ons.
 
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