NFL Mid season Fins mock draft

[Zbrod95]

For my fin fans!! We’re 6 games in so let’s do a mock to see where everybody stands on needs.

1- Christian Barmore IDL - Bama

He’s going to rise and probably be the best interior lineman in the draft. Wilkins is a run defender and one of the best in the league at it. That will allow this kid get up field.


1- GR15

Unless Tua lights it up and replaces Fitz I expect us to be a 7-9/8-8 team. I really trust this staff when it comes to development though. They’ve done a really good job with guys like Van Ginkel, Hunt, Williams and Gesicki who both were incomplete players. Take a chance here on a young kid.

2- Najee Harris or ETN RB - Bama or Clemson

Essentially best RB available.

2- Bubba

We need a legit FS. Bubba is a legit FS.

3- TJ Vasher WR - TTU

Big WR to develop. I know a lot of you guys want one earlier but I think adding AJ Green is the way to go. Our young guys are talented. Give him a 2 yr deal and see if he’s worth keeping around even longer after that.

4- Jordan Davis NT - UGA

Big body at 6-6 330. Recruiting Miss by us. We have to pay Godcheaux soon and I would rather use that money somewhere else and let Raekwon and Jordan battle for starting nose.

4- Monty Rice ILB - UGA

Your prototype ILB. Sam Eguovan is probably going to move on so replace and develop Monty Rice.

6- D’Ante Demery OT - FIU

Development. I love Robert Hunt but I think he could be an all pro inside.

6- Richard Lecounte ? - UGA

What is he? Backer? Safety? Who cares. He’s talented and we can figure it out later.

7- Darrian Kinnard OG - UK

Big dude. Worth a pick.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

We need to take a RB early. I know its not the staff's philosophy, but a dynamic Rb would kick the offense into another gear.

Also weak on the DL. I'm with GR15.

 

[DMoney]

We need twitch and speed. Waddle, Parsons, Rousseau and Rondale Moore are first round names that make sense.

 

[Zbrod95]

We need twitch and speed. Waddle, Parsons, Rousseau and Rondale Moore are first round names that make sense.

Except that’s not how Pats guys build it and you got 2 Pats guys at the helm. The best Pats teams including the one Flores Coordinated dominated the LOS defensively. Parsons is a fit but he’s not a need. Edge is a need, an interior pass rusher, and RB is a need way more than a WR and if they did they would go for a sure handed guy over speed. Hence why I went with Vasher.

 

[Zbrod95]

We need to take a RB early. I know its not the staff's philosophy, but a dynamic Rb would kick the offense into another gear.

Also weak on the DL. I'm with GR15.

That’s why I went Barmore and GR15. Basham is playing and I think he’ll increase his value because of it and be taken ahead of Greg.

 

[DMoney]

Except that’s not how Pats guys build it and you got 2 Pats guys at the helm. The best Pats teams including the one Flores Coordinated dominated the LOS defensively. Parsons is a fit but he’s not a need. Edge is a need, an interior pass rusher, and RB is a need way more than a WR and if they did they would go for a sure handed guy over speed. Hence why I went with Vasher.

We built up the lines last draft and in FA. It’s time to add some juice.

This is becoming even more of a playmaker league and the Dolphins need playmakers. Parker, Williams and Gesicki are all contested catch guys and Gaskin is a third-string talent.

 

[Zbrod95]

We built up the lines last draft and in FA. It’s time to add some juice.

This is becoming even more of a playmaker league and the Dolphins need playmakers. Parker, Williams and Gesicki are all contested catch guys and Gaskin is a third-string talent.

how did we build up the defensive line? We have a career backup starting on the interior and our only 2 legitimate edge guys are Lawson and Ogbah. Most teams carry at least 4 - 5 legitimate edge/pass rushing threats and we only have 2. That’s a problem. You have 2 Pats guys at the helm. They don’t take WRs early and they care more about being reliable than fast.

 

[DMoney]

how did we build up the defensive line? We have a career backup starting on the interior and our only 2 legitimate edge guys are Lawson and Ogbah. Most teams carry at least 4 - 5 legitimate edge/pass rushing threats and we only have 2. That’s a problem. You have 2 Pats guys at the helm.

We also have Wilkins and Raekwon Davis. I agree we need another rusher which is why I mentioned Rousseau.

But the big lacking element is speed. The only guy with juice is Grant and he’s a gadget player.

 

[Zbrod95]

We also have Wilkins and Raekwon Davis. I agree we need another rusher which is why I mentioned Rousseau.

But the big lacking element is speed. The only guy with juice is Grant and he’s a gadget player.

And one isn’t a pass rusher and the other doesn’t even start. So what am I missing other than we have a glaring hole to the left of Godcheaux with no answer in sight? There’s plenty of ways to add playmaking. Juju is up for FA this year. Steelers have Thompson and Claypool now with Connor up. Odds say they would rather resign Connor. Stills is an FA, Willie Snead, Will Fuller, Curtis Samuel, Marvin Jones, TY Hilton, Sammy Watkins, and John Ross are all due to be FAs. Why draft one if that’s the class I’m looking at and I don’t need a NO. 1 guy? I get what you’re saying about speed though. It’ll stretch the field but unless it’s someone like Juju they’re gonna be 2nd to Parker. I’m not wasting a first on somebody that is going to be 2nd when I have glaring holes on the D-line.

 

[rayray]

rousseau makes a lot of sense to me... fins need a freak on the DL and i think he fits what they want more than if he was a pure pass rusher. he should be able to control the line of scrimmage and collapse the pocket, can play inside and we know flores values "versatility" or w/e

offensive game breaker is clearly a huge need as well but you can get those guys well into the second round the way the draft has shaken out recently. deebo samuel, aj brown, miles sanders, dk metcalf, terry mclaurin, chase claypool all guys from just the last two drafts alone outside the first round. waddle or moore in the top 15 just feels like a reach to me, would rather see them pick up two front 7 guys in the first round. wilkins, baker are good players but we need more beasts and playmakers at the first two levels of the defense. they are well positioned to hammer WR/RB at the top of the second round. i guess what i'm saying is that i agree w/ zbrod.

 

[Shinyheadman]

We built up the lines last draft and in FA. It’s time to add some juice.

This is becoming even more of a playmaker league and the Dolphins need playmakers. Parker, Williams and Gesicki are all contested catch guys and Gaskin is a third-string talent.

This was very evident against new england with a secondary that is pretty flexible and athletic. Our best route runner is devante who is average at it. Gesicki can be good at it when hes not matched up against athletic safeties. Getting a Juedy or Aiyuk this last draft would have help this offense very well.

 

[DMoney]

 

[DMoney]

2- Najee Harris or ETN RB - Bama or Clemson

Essentially best RB available.

I'm a Najee Harris fan. He's a Le'Veon Bell clone.

Their patient running styles, receiving skills and combine numbers (based on Harris's HS measurables) are almost identical.

 

[BoxingRobes]

Dolphins should be all offense. If Tua is your guy, you invest in putting talent around him.

 

[Zbrod95]

I'm a Najee Harris fan. He's a Le'Veon Bell clone.

Their patient running styles, receiving skills and combine numbers (based on Harris's HS measurables) are almost identical.

My only question though is if they think he would be a fit. He did try to transfer from Bama at one point. I don’t think someone like the fins that’s trying to be a hard nosed, tough, work ethic driven culture is going to like somebody that had to be talked into going back to a school like Alabama. I could actually see them drafting a pair of backs like Max Borghi in the mid rounds then Ja-Maine Martin in the 5th

 

[P-Tizzle]

Waddle and Ettiene. Dolphins already ready have their O-Line set for the next several years. They need a big play WR and RB. Ettiene would be a perfect for in the backfield with Tua.

 

[HighSeas]

Parsons Scouting Report @LuCane :

• Elite edge rush traits. Explosive and bendy with long arms to track. Strong lower body, wide base makes it difficult to knock him off his path even at sub-250 lbs
• Near-impossible to block in the run game and as a green dog blitzer. Works his feet then hands to clear his frame. Rarely takes on a block head-on and never stays blocked
• Effective jamming up TEs in coverage. Again has wide base and long arms with the agility to mirror. Has the talent to (project to) match up in man on most in-line TEs
• Limited range in zone coverage. Agility and explosion doesn't translate to his backpedal or angle drops. Has very heavy feet - you can literally see him tear up grass unlike anyone on the field - which helps him maintain balance and power in tight quarters, but in space it limits his quickness
• Doesn't trust his eyes fully yet but solid run fits. Scheme/alignment prevented him from making many plays in the run game. He's more of a gap-control run defender than a run-and-hit guy because he's better at avoiding blocks and spilling plays than getting downhill quick
• Strong, powerful tackler. Very flexible to lower his frame and he always initiates contact with his chest/shoulder if he can. Doesn't get dragged for much extra yardage

He's not a fit for every scheme but I'm sold that he's a versatile stud in the right ones (like the Dolphins). He has the traits to play MIKE effectively on early downs but his calling card will be subpackage where he can do everything at a high level. Just don't ask him to carry receivers far up the seam or zone drop to depth. My only worry is he's so powerful driving his feet in the ground that he's gonna rupture his Achilles at some point. He certainly belongs in the top 10 discussion and perhaps even top 5 if a team plans to feature him as an edge rusher.

 

[LuCane]

Parsons Scouting Report @LuCane :

• Elite edge rush traits. Explosive and bendy with long arms to track. Strong lower body, wide base makes it difficult to knock him off his path even at sub-250 lbs
• Near-impossible to block in the run game and as a green dog blitzer. Works his feet then hands to clear his frame. Rarely takes on a block head-on and never stays blocked
• Effective jamming up TEs in coverage. Again has wide base and long arms with the agility to mirror. Has the talent to (project to) match up in man on most in-line TEs
• Limited range in zone coverage. Agility and explosion doesn't translate to his backpedal or angle drops. Has very heavy feet - you can literally see him tear up grass unlike anyone on the field - which helps him maintain balance and power in tight quarters, but in space it limits his quickness
• Doesn't trust his eyes fully yet but solid run fits. Scheme/alignment prevented him from making many plays in the run game. He's more of a gap-control run defender than a run-and-hit guy because he's better at avoiding blocks and spilling plays than getting downhill quick
• Strong, powerful tackler. Very flexible to lower his frame and he always initiates contact with his chest/shoulder if he can. Doesn't get dragged for much extra yardage

He's not a fit for every scheme but I'm sold that he's a versatile stud in the right ones (like the Dolphins). He has the traits to play MIKE effectively on early downs but his calling card will be subpackage where he can do everything at a high level. Just don't ask him to carry receivers far up the seam or zone drop to depth. My only worry is he's so powerful driving his feet in the ground that he's gonna rupture his Achilles at some point. He certainly belongs in the top 10 discussion and perhaps even top 5 if a team plans to feature him as an edge rusher.

Thanks, man. I think this type of discussion elevates the board. Appreciated.

This is what I hope to see when I watch his games pre-draft. Really difficult to pass this up regardless of offensive skill need. It changes the dynamic of an entire defense. I had asked for your view of him in coverage because I feel like in the highlights I saw and the couple random games I remember, I rarely saw him dropping. I think that's an issue I wanted to know more about.

Guys like Tremaine Edmunds, Fred Warner, and even Minny's Kendrick's offer something special in coverage. However, and maybe this is just a loony projection, I keep watching NFL teams turn more and more to subpackages and lots of DBs. So I feel like a guy who can play Mike and also be a blitzer on obvious passing downs is less of an issue than it may have been even 5 years ago. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of it, but look at how Seattle uses Jamal Adams. Guy's somehow become a subpackage blitzing specialist. If Parsons can play the LB version, and the Phins end up with the 7th or 8th pick, I have hard time passing him up.

 

[HighSeas]

Those guys you mentioned play for schemes that run a lot of 2 deep zone or pattern-match coverage. I don't think Parsons fits those schemes as well as others. But he could certainly fit in Minnesota the way did Barr did with his ability to create havoc in double A-gap looks.

To be clear, Parsons does drop often on film he just doesn't get much depth when he does it. When he needs to change directions laterally it looks smooth to me, just not especially quick.

 

[LuCane]

Those guys you mentioned play for schemes that run a lot of 2 deep zone or pattern-match coverage. I don't think Parsons fits those schemes as well as others. But he could certainly fit in Minnesota the way did Barr did with his ability to create havoc in double A-gap looks.

To be clear, Parsons does drop often on film he just doesn't get much depth when he does it. When he needs to change directions laterally it looks smooth to me, just not especially quick.

I'll look forward to it when February and March roll around. Haven't gotten much of a look at him. Probably seen Dylan Moses like 10x more often.