Covid19 in the U.S. is a serious nursing home problem

tcgrad1014

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Over 50% of deaths attributed to C19 in CO, DE, OR, UT and PA have stemmed from nursing homes. 60% in CT, NJ and MA. 70% in RI.

Every day the percentage of total deaths attributed to C19 in the U.S. stemming from nursing homes continues to grow.

Let's take steps to fix where the problem is and re-start the country.
 

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I expect we'll see a lot of changes to nursing home requirements in the next few years. This is an area that has long been overlooked. We had 12 elderly people pass away from a negligent staff in the wake of Hurricane Irma because the facility had no backup generator.

It's sad that, like our veterans, we ignore our elderly once they're no use to us any longer.
 

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In MA we did one better, at a state run soldier's home the deaths are approaching 100. Before this outbreak 25% of the nursing homes had closed in the last year or so. This will take out a sizable portion of their residents, and the industry will struggle with an increased lack of trust
 

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CA is now up to almost 50% of Covid attributed fatalities stemming from nursing homes. That number was reported as 38% two days ago. NY is currently reporting 20%, which is absolutely wrong, and will absolutely be adjusted up. We must do more to protect our nursing homes.

Regardless of what the fear porn media continues to report, if you are not a resident or staff member of a nursing home, if you are not over 65, if you are not obese, and if you do not have a medical condition that makes you immuno-compromised, Covid is roughly as deadly as the flu.

 

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CA is now up to almost 50% of Covid attributed fatalities stemming from nursing homes. That number was reported as 38% two days ago. NY is currently reporting 20%, which is absolutely wrong, and will absolutely be adjusted up. We must do more to protect our nursing homes.

Regardless of what the fear porn media continues to report, if you are not a resident or staff member of a nursing home, if you are not over 65, if you are not obese, and if you do not have a medical condition that makes you immuno-compromised, Covid is roughly as deadly as the flu.

Illinois is up to 48% today.

Seems to be two simultaneous truths emerging about the virus: 1) we utterly failed to protect the most vulnerable. 2) it could be much less of a threat to the national population than it initially seemed.
 

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Illinois is up to 48% today.

Seems to be two simultaneous truths emerging about the virus: 1) we utterly failed to protect the most vulnerable. 2) it could be much less of a threat to the national population than it initially seemed.
1 is definitely true. 2 isn't. Anybody following the data from the countries slammed before us knew that Covid was never a major threat to the vast majority of our population.
 

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I spoke with a neighbor who was in Italy in November and had occasion to be in the hospital. He said it was a complete shitshow and overwhelmed even then. His wife ended up getting Covid in February. He has never gotten it and doesn't have the antibodies. How many other people will just never catch it? If that 60-70% infected us the goal for herd immunity, what if we never reach it?
 

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I spoke with a neighbor who was in Italy in November and had occasion to be in the hospital. He said it was a complete shitshow and overwhelmed even then. His wife ended up getting Covid in February. He has never gotten it and doesn't have the antibodies. How many other people will just never catch it? If that 60-70% infected us the goal for herd immunity, what if we never reach it?
How will we ever know if 60-70% have immunity when we'd have to test that percentage of over 300M people?
 

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Illinois is up to 48% today.

Seems to be two simultaneous truths emerging about the virus: 1) we utterly failed to protect the most vulnerable. 2) it could be much less of a threat to the national population than it initially seemed.

That’s a perfect synopsis.
 

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We can test sample populations for the antibodies. It shouldn't be any more difficult to get a representative sample just like they do fo polls all the time.
Makes sense. Determining what that sample size would be and what demographics to use will be a challenge.
 

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How will we ever know if 60-70% have immunity when we'd have to test that percentage of over 300M people?
@Pelican45 nailed it. You'd have to get a representative sample large enough and test them.

The question is why he never caught it at all, yet his son did, and what percentage of the population is in the same boat.
 

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@Pelican45 nailed it. You'd have to get a representative sample large enough and test them.

The question is why he never caught it at all, yet his son did, and what percentage of the population is in the same boat.
It's the same issue for the positive/negative tests. We don't need to test 1 million people per day. We need a constant flow of representative sampling.
 

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NY blew it badly with nursing home situation.

Unlike West Virginia, New York has not mandated testing in its more than 1,150 nursing homes and long-term care facilities. Nor has Cuomo followed the lead of such states as Maryland, Florida, Tennessee and Wisconsin in dispatching National Guard teams to homes to conduct testing, triage and some care.

 

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Per NYT, the number of states with 50%+ Covid fatalities attributed to nursing homes is now up to 16. Some of their data is old. For example they attribute 37% in CA when the actual number is just under 50%. Included in the NYT article is 80% in MN and 81% in WV. Covid is most viciously attacking (with some exceptions obviously), the oldest and weakest among us. They must be protected. The rest of us need to go back to life (including our children).

Also, the 20% figure for NY still being widely circulated seems absurdly low (it's over 50% in NJ, MA, PA and CT), and will be adjusted up over time.
 
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