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  1. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    @LeedsCane , mopes are going to mope. Anyone who has paid any attention knows the program is being run by elite professionals. Not worth losing life over this drivel. I skip over 95% (99%?) of the posts these days because it’s just word vomit with no evidence of a frontal lobe to be found.
  2. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Et tu Brute? Come on brother, give it a minute. You’re talking about one of the best closers in football. Just remember the coordinator crisis and how that ended. It’s only a matter of time.
  3. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    TVD came back for a second year. I expect Jake to do so as well. But who knows? You may be right.
  4. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Now that he's on board, I will admit I want to see him start leading his HS team to victory this year. If they lose, they better lose 40-35 or whatever. His OL on those highlights was terrible. But you can't be a Miami Hurricane QB commit throwing to a UGA (or Cane) WR commit as your #1 go-to...
  5. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    :neonu: Welcome aboard! :neonu:
  6. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    And humble.
  7. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Lol, yeah not much new info and that video was goofy. But it’s the only one I could find. At the minimum, we know the camp isn’t just pay to play, they look at 300+ QBs across the country, claim to not care about stars,and the staff are seasoned evaluators even if theyre not NFL/P5 scouts. At...
  8. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    From what I've read, it's based on evaluations by the coaches during the Elite 11 Regional Camps. Here's a quick video https://www.elite11.com/elite-11-nationwide It all comes down to trusting that the guys that run the camp know what they're doing and aren't gaming the system, as they have...
  9. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    If it's a bird in hand situation but all parties know we will still keep hunting, I certainly love that scenario. Kid can stand on his own in this class. But I agree the 2 5 stars have higher ceilings. You can win with a high quality QB game manager. But we've seen what a transformational QB...
  10. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    I'd be very happy with Williams if he passes Ponce's evals. And I don't subscribe to the group that wants Miami NIL investors to get into a bidding war for Rashada that drains their budget too much. But why on earth would you give Williams the green light before Rashada makes his decision...
  11. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Okay now that makes more sense. I wouldn’t call it average from his highlights but even there you can see he doesn’t have Rashada’s arm which is elite. I didn’t see his receivers’ highlights or real game film so defer to you on his deficiencies. On his highlights the arm looks good enough if not...
  12. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    First time I actually watched his highlights. Not sure what the naysayers see. Looks really good to me. I really like QBs that have grace under pressure, and this kid has great pocket presence and situational awareness. Hard to teach that. Blu raves about him, Roman raves about him, Ponce...
  13. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    100. Also, didn't know Blu is longtime friends with Ponce and was the one who first started touting Williams over a year ago. Neat story.
  14. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    So many booms and busts at the QB spot. I definitely don't trust my judgment. So many guys I thought would do well didn't, and I thought wouldn't do well did. Now I just rely on the coach. Lashlee, we knew he had the Midas touch with QBs. It all comes down to Ponce. Do we believe he's a...
  15. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Are you an AI pretending to be a human? I'm going to start calling you Watson.
  16. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    How'd you feel after the Penn State game? tbh, I was shocked Vinny resurrected his pro career and was very good in the end. What a story.
  17. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    I like Williams. But he doesn't seem even close to TVD's athleticism. TVD never played as a dual-threat, doesn't mean he couldn't be mobile and effective there. I think we'll see a lot more motion and read-based runs with him this coming season. Hope we get away from designed runs, though.
  18. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    If Ponce is that inexperienced dealing with developmental vs. top talent, he better not be next up after Gattis leaves. You never make commitments like that to a developmental player.
  19. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Why? Some of it is up front money. Even the guarantee 1. has the potential to create a QB room controversy, and 2. could be used for a higher-confidence NIL investment. Seriously, what does Ruiz get from a big bet on Rashada when he can put all his marketing money on TVD and get very clear and...
  20. grover

    Official Emory Williams - 2023 QB COMMIT

    Gojira, you're taking a rationale approach to this NIL issue. I don't think everyone is rationale at this point. I don't see why you pay 1M+ NIL for a 2023 kid that is guaranteed to sit this season, most likely sitting next season with Garcia at bat, and may decide to transfer before he even...
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