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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    Yeah - Clemson definitely evaluates better. And they know their system and have stability. Dabo didn't land a single Top 100 rated OL in his first 7 recruiting classes - which is pretty crazy. It does seem weird to me that they wouldn't be able to land OL guys that both fit their scheme AND...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    I remember I've looked at this before - and about 20-25% is pretty much the average at any school in terms of players in a recruiting class that don't finish at that school - either they transfer, get kicked off the team, get injured, etc. That doesn't include going pro early. Under Golden I...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    Simmons is a LB/DB hybrid. Predominantly a LB - but still took 20% of his snaps at DB last year. Lined up as DB a majority of the time at Clemson. I agree to after the top 5 - Alabama, LSU, GA, UF, OSU - there's a gap to get to Clemson. But would you say anyone outside of the Top 5 is better...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    Yeah - I can see the scheme fit. But until recently they didn't produce any NFL OL at all. Only 3 OL drafted 2010 - 2019. I will say - it's A LOT easier for an OL to look good when it's blocking for a 1st Rd QB, throwing to a 1st Rd WR & handing off to a 1st Rd RB. When Trevor Lawrence...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    Clemson's 2018 NC team had: 1st Rd - AJ Terrell - Falcons starter 1st Rd - Isiah Simmons - DB/LB hybrid in college - Cardinals starter 2nd Rd - Trayvon Mullen - Raiders starter 4th Rd - K'von Wallace - 3 starts as an Eagles rookie last year UFA - Mark Fields - HOU/MIN journeyman for 2 years...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    Alabama, LSU, GA, UF, OSU - those are the only 5 schools producing better DB's than Clemson the last 5-6 years. The numbers argument is again skewing things. Clemson has a lot more players drafted higher, and a lot more guys that actually play in the NFL vs just making the team. None of our...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    I think it's more than that - Clemson has had Elite WR's and more recently DB's too DeAndre Hopkins, Sammy Watkins, Martavis Bryant, Mike Williams, Tee Higgins, Justyn Ross, Hunter Renfrow, Amari Rogers - they've been stacked for 10 years And DB the last 6-7 years - 6 Day 1&2 DB's drafted in...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    I think the common mistakes when making these "NFL talent" comparisons is 1) Always comparing ourselves "up" to Alabama, Ohio St. like you said - and never comparing ourselves "down" to places like UNC & VT 2) Not understanding sliding scales - for example: The talent difference between a 1st...
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    Miami's NFL talent and getting to the next level

    Day 3 guys are great and we should be proud of them. But it's Day 1 & 2 guys that move the needle. Think of it this way - if an NFL team had 3 4th round picks, they couldn't trade all 3 for 1 1st Round pick. They couldn't even trade all 3 for 1 2nd Round pick. The value of those top...
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