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  1. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Go back and read. Reading is fundamental. Someone said "very violent intentions". Read all the words. Use all the words. He intended it to mean they were armed, they had guns, they were willing to murder a guy. A fight? A FIGHT? Fights happen all the time. I seriously wonder about the...
  2. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Look, I'm not triggered at all. You have no idea what my background is, so I find your comment comical. I've had guns, fired guns, and hunted since I was a kid. Same with much of my family. And I'm going to be honest with you. I've had this conversation about "self-defense" and firing a gun...
  3. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Look, I am fully aware that "testimony" is a form of evidence, so if I left out the word "corroborative", I apologize, as it was not intentional. As I clearly stated in relation to another Florida case (Zimmerman), the person on trial can say whatever. So maybe, just maybe, the absence of any...
  4. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Look, you can spin this any way you want. I said what I said. This isn't about "writing a legal memo". This thread is 2 years old. Someone recently bumped it, and several people misstated wild non-law-school-grad takes on legal issues. I'm just trying to provide context and explanation to...
  5. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    "Very violent intentions"...that were not acted upon. Go back and re-read the thread. I said that Rudolph's mug shot indicated no bruises or cuts evidencing that he was "jumped". People have had 2 years to present evidence of this alleged horrible ordeal that Rudolph and his brother...
  6. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Keep making up facts. Like this nugget of bull****: "then aim 2 guns at you while they in their getaway car". Good lord, that one is insane in its insanity. 1. "their getaway car"? Were the robbing a bank? It was also "their arrival car". 2. Where is the evidence of "aim 2 guns at you...
  7. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Hilarious. You joined just to make that post. Or "rejoined". I explained it. Multiple times. And, no, don't try to tell me this is the Zimmerman case. It's nowhere close. This is a case of something happening in a driveway leading to a person's house. And a person coming out of the...
  8. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Look, between the two of us, which of us went to law school? Exactly. I don't give a **** if you don't like my responses, they are accurate, while yours are hystericall and emotional. As I have said before, and as you are evidencing in your response, it's ridiculous to keep talking about "who...
  9. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Oh good lord, that's complete bull****. You're not listening. You're only hearing what you want to hear. The George Zimmerman case isn't "precedent", and the person who said that doesn't even understand what "precedent" is. Rudolph doesn't have a legal defense. He MIGHT not be convicted, he...
  10. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    It has been explained for pages. The "stand your ground" defense was denied. The "self defense" defense is highly likely to fail. The "but she is crazy" defense is non-existent. The defense is likely hoping for jury nullification, but some people on this board think there is some sort of...
  11. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Yeah, that's not happening.
  12. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Not necessarily. Is there any evidence that Rudolph KNEW of any of that? I don't care if those guys had a bazooka under the seat of their car that they never pull out to use, if Rudolph doesn't know that, it's not "self-defense". The defense is definitely using all of that stuff to try for...
  13. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    What? Are you trying to say that the "But she started it" defense doesn't work outside of elementary school?
  14. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    I'd just say this. The argument has already been made, and in light of the Ring Doorbell Camera video and the ruling of the judge ("stand your ground" does not apply), I would think that this has already been considered. Again, anyone can try to argue anything, but he's on video going after...
  15. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    As per usual, a bunch of guys giving "legal conclusions" from reading headlines instead of state statutes. Rudolph went BACK INSIDE of his house, retrieved a gun, and then went out again after guys who were retreating. That's not "stand your ground".
  16. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    But you (or anybody) don't know what the call was about or what was discussed. If you (or anybody) got into a fight with someone (and, for the moment, assume you got the worst end of it), it is not unusual to confide in a family member or a friend. I am actually acknowledging that I do NOT...
  17. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    So you are repeating yourself, as if you have addressed what I said. Her "calling people" is not a crime. Him going back into the house to get a rifle, then coming outside to shoot at people who are running away, is, in fact, a crime. Two people made mistakes. One was a dumb mistake that is...
  18. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Rudolph should have called the cops as well. He screwed up.
  19. TheOriginalCane

    Former FSU WR Travis Rudolph arrested on 1st Degree Murder

    Again, I'm willing to be open-minded if there is anything on video or audio, but here is a newspaper account of some of the relevant facts: "At some point, witnesses allege Rudolph went into his home, got a rifle and started shooting as the group ran back to their car in an attempt to flee. One...
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