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Was this savage beating as bad as the one that Butch gave Manny? I love how the Butch haters lose their junk when a poster that defends Butch or is critical of any current coach or player is labeled as a non-cane fan. So savage. Never seen that on this board before. Very original. By the way...

I get it. I am not a real Canes fan since I don't continually bad-mouth an ex-coach and I am somewhat critical of the current coaching staff. We've only heard that argument 800,000 times. Anyway, I'm not here to argue with you. I agree on some of your points on Butch. I just find it sad that...

Thank you for breaking that down into minutes. How many minutes has it been since Manny beat that juggernaut FIU?

You might be right about the sanctions. I thought I had read an article where they started after the 95 season, but that might be wrong. Regardless, we lost 24 scholarships over a 2 year recruiting period. That is enough to cripple most programs for a while. What Butch did was remarkable...

How about a little bit of facts thrown into this thread, since it's now "Butch is Gawd" brigade vs "Manny cannot be criticized" apologists. Butch Davis Career record at UM: 51 wins, 20 losses (6 seasons). 4-0 in bowl games. Should have been 5 bowl games, but served one year bowl ban (1995) due...