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Fair point and I'm not in the group that's national championship or bust. Gotta start somewhere and my expectations are far lower than they were two decades ago. I don't ever see us being in the hunt yearly like some of the superpowers of today, but I would like to compete every half a decade...

Great? Only if we win games where it matters, on the field. If that doesn't happen, his biggest draw (as a recruiter) will go out the door. As a coach, he's green as ****. This board can't seem to make up their minds on what they want, vet or green if this is a great hire. Wish him well...