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Randy recruited zero LBs in '07. In '08 he signed 3 'rush end' LBs (Hardin, Harper, M. Rob, plus A. Brown, Marti, Kane, Futch, Spence. Of that group, Hardin, Harper, Marti, Kane never played a significant down here, A. Brown and Futch didn't do much. M. Rob was okay. Spence was the only good...

That has nothing to do with the comment I made. I responded to a post that said 'One thing that I think gets lost in all of this is to trust the moves Manny makes.' I pointed out that his prior moves haven't worked out so well, so maybe blind trust in his moves isn't logical. You can tell...

How many position corches has nick saban lost within 2 weeks of hiring them?

lmao. like our real problem has been not ‘developing’ the LBs. good thing we ‘developed’ rousseau, phillips and roche.

That ‘proven failure’ of a HC is a lot better rainmaker for many cfb careers than Manny is. Coaching is a network business and we hired a guy with no USB ports.

We’re discovering the hidden cost of having a HC who doesn’t have a tree and isn’t made of wood.

Dan Enos and Blake Baker say ‘hi’

You say it’s so clear it doesn’t need to be stated. Atllawyerguy says he’s 1000% sure it got stated clearly. Now you see why I wondered what was asked and said. Personally, I don’t think it’s always stated, and I don’t think it’s always assumed. If Nick Saban asked you whether you’re willing...

You’re spinning. You made the comment that you’re certain every coach gets the script right. Your words: “I am 1000% confident that Manny asked for at least a 1 year commitment-as does every head coach. Just like Temple asked for a commitment from Manny. This is just the nature of business...

Just a question I asked. Nothing is at stake. It’s a message board.

Not true. Plenty of coach (and other personal services) contracts do not contain a buy-out. That's probably an atypical term for anyone other than a head coach (or coordinator at major institutions). Severance is a different concept from buyout.

That sounds like Manny. Reactive and one-step-at-a-time.

So T Will gets DC ... what do you do when T Rob ready to bolt?

You sound like a lawyer, not a business person. I am 1000% sure that not every manager making a hiring decision (or company involved in them) ask for a 1 year commitment, despite your being convinced to the contrary. So, we're at an impasse. You think every head coach and hirer asks for this...

i'm pretty sure no one would take lightly a lie to nick saban.

maybe. i hadn't thought about the temple wrinkle. it matters whether they asked him the question as well. it also matters that this was his 'dream job.' I doubt DC at UCF is T Will's 'dream job.' But you are right, Manny's background doesn't make this an easy topic. Which is to say his...

fair point.

it matters to his reputation, if he lied. it's a small world. i am definitely NOT calling him a liar. I just wondered aloud if manny asked him for a commitment. my guess is he didn't.

Manny should know enough to ask for a first year commitment from someone before he hires them. At least a look me in the eye moral commitment. If they won't give you that, you should know this ain't where they want to be. The coaching profession is a network business so people wouldn't take...