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idk about grading on a curve. Where a guy is lining up is mostly scheme related. You're still looking for the traits. Imagine Phillips on the left side where he would have saw less snaps with a TE or shifted protections against him though? Jesus. As for Roche...while the raw sack totals...

@gogeta4 I posted in the Dolphins thread in the Sports Forum, as did High Seas. Usually, UF track is slower than the combine (srs) and a tweet was followed up posting the splits and he's more like a 4.53. Whichever...he's ******* RUNNING. Chase when evaluating the splits was a 4.40 guy...

Its a drill that attempts to quantify lower body explosion. Its not about the actual jump.

I know youre a Parsons guy. Parsons will be taken higher (he seems like such a LIONS pick), but I like Zaven Collins more. I love that guy. Pat Surtain should be the defensive player challenging Phillips, IMO.

That conveniently leaves off the 3-cone, which...is a pretty important test for edge guys. JPP was a 7.18 in the 3-cone. Rousseau a 7.5.

I mean, as I pointed out in previous Rousseau discourse, his "fluidity" is overstated...as seen in the testing numbers. 7.5 is bad bad. DeForest Buckner ran a 7.51 at 290lbs and its 13th percentile per mockdraftable. He's also not as explosive - per the testing numbers - as you and others...

I agree. He doesn't stand out physically...but he's got all the tools. Has tons of game tape that support him being a guy that can do a little bit of everything both at the G5 level and P5 level. I've said it before, but I think Roche and Rousseau are closer to prospect grade than most give...

Rousseau's RAS shows a dece athlete. All straight line though. idk, all of this shows up on tape, to me. Not the athletic freak people have promised over the years. Also, if you take a year off of football, you've got to test better than this. You run a 7.5 cone after a YEAR to practice...

Former 5-star, nearly #1 prospect in the country that tests like an athletic freak and has tape showing the entire toolbox with ++ attributes all over the place? He should be a Top 10 pick and should be the first defensive player off the board.

94th percentile. Its excellent.

Um...I thought I tried explaining this to yall...but that 7.5 cone shows up on tape. I don't want to say never, but the number of times he showed legit bend around the edge is under a handful, for sure. I pointed out clips where Phillips and Roche bent the corner and go to the QB. Those...

Phillips is EDGE1. Don't overthink this **** people.