The Foreclosure (7/12)

DMoney

Jul 12, 2025 1 min read

I won’t sugarcoat it. I’m expecting more bad news, based on recent conversations. There isn’t much confidence on anyone right now, including Derrek Cooper.

I’ve thought we’d get him from the beginning, and still think we can flip him at some point. But we’re behind Texas headed into the announcement. And this is an absolute top priority recruit.

It seems a lot of kids still don’t believe in Miami. And the local players least of all. That’s understandable- they know us the best. Many of our fans don’t believe in us after two decades of disappointment.

The bottom line is we need to get over the hump. We were on the verge when we forgot to kneel against Georgia Tech. We were on the verge when we were up 21-0 on Syracuse. We need to get to the next level as a program to prove we aren’t the place dreams go to die.

Until then, we will be fighting a lot of uphill battles.

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TomAce

Jul 12, 2025

Are we in SoFl three stars = National 5 star territory yet?

ssvir

Jul 12, 2025

Calinative said:
What about the argument that maybe we are in the 5-10 range of spending and by us getting the #1 player in the country who is likely among the most expensive if not THE MOST expensive, it natrually is going to lead to losing some other Head to Head top battles. Yet we still have what like 7 top 200 recruits in July currently when last year we had 6 total and the highest was Lowe who was ranked like 30s in composite I think...

LB from NW is going to flake. Not sure if he's one of the 7.

Calinative

Jul 12, 2025

252cane said:
Cooper said after his ov that people say miami is the place where dreams die.

lol is this a real quote?

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nickster

Jul 12, 2025

Cribby said:
I posted yesterday Texas was a real threat and getting the last visit there isn’t good . I was hoping they had time to work things before commitment .

This is what happens when you have a total collapse at the end of the season like MARIO has had. The recruits see that and the opposing teams eat us alive in negative recruiting.

Gocanes1990

Jul 12, 2025

Calinative said:
No my point is
A) they've done less on the field and have trended down year after year compared to us trending up year after year

B) have spent substantially less on their roster up to this point as evidenced by them having a worse recruiting class each of the last 3 years compared to us, AND having a much worse portal class than us. This allows them to have more money to spend on this HS class, which should be obvious. ... (of and they haven't spent substantially less for their roster up to this point that is just blatant evidence of them NOT being well run lol)..

C) And NOW because they have all the money in the world to spend, are landing the top class our of HS (that wont help them any this year on the field), you say if we were more like them we'd have a top 5 class... Well uh yeah it's easy to do well in recruiting and look 'so competent' when you have the most money to spend. It's like USC is the team in FA that has the most money to spend like the Patriots this offseason and we are the packers, and then being like 'If we were as well run as the patriots, we'd be much better!'.... riiiiight.....

And see you say we may be north of $28M... well that doesn't matter much if there are 10 other programs at that same spending level, now does it? It's all relative. And it doesn't help us much for THIS HS recruiting class if most of our money available is tied up to guys currently playing and that we expect back next season. $28M roster doesn't mean you have ability to spend at top 3 level for this specific HS class. And maybe if it did it'd likely mean we had no ability to spend in the portal. Would you prefer that? or the more balanced approach of maybe a slightly worse HS class than you're capable of and getting a slightly better portal class?...

I think we agree on A & B, not on C. I respect your opinion. SC will probably go 8-4 this year. Finish in top 3 for recruiting. My point is this is a rapidly professionalizing sport. Whether the best analogy is premier league soccer, mlb or the nfl as far as $$ is concerned idk. But the fact is, like any business it comes down to management. And what I am trying my best to articulate is ours sucks. And until we have a real GM and real structure we’re ****ed. With mario I don’t see that changing. I hope we have a magical season, I will never root against us

We’re poorly run, period, end of story. If you don’t think not taking a knee vs GT doesn’t translate across the operation, I have some beach front property in Iowa to sell you

ssvir

Jul 12, 2025

htownkidd

Jul 12, 2025

Calinative said:
... But in this thread people are LITERALLY praising UF as being and doing better than us lol. And then you made the comment you made. Come on...

Cause that’s all we have to hang on to apparently. Just like the title from 25 years ago is all we had to hang on to prior to this season. Great job.

Shooter McGavin

Jul 12, 2025

Still waiting for the Dennis Smith details

pacusmc

Jul 12, 2025

Kansas Cane said:
We have local kids earning first team All American here in Kam and X, OJ first FR AA, Xavier Lucas comes home as a high end NFL prospect, our RBs are both from here and set to BALL….why the turn on us now from local prospects?

Plus we have four studs in 27 committed from
here.

I don’t get it.

If Cam Kinchens was 6’2 and ran a 4.4 he never would’ve signed with Miami.

We have been losing battles for the Elite of the elite dudes for years. Mario and the money we’re spending levels it out a bit. But we’re still behind from the looks of it.

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TooColdToHold

Jul 12, 2025

DMoney said:
So we walked over them because of scheme?

@JHallCanes I love you but this is the dumbest narrative going.

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Phydeaux

Jul 12, 2025

Just here to see when the estate sale begins

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dolemite79

Jul 12, 2025

Gocanes1990 said:
We’re poorly run, period, end of story. If you don’t think not taking a knee vs GT doesn’t translate across the operation, I have some beach front property in Iowa to sell you

"How you do anything is how you do everything"

TwentySix

Jul 12, 2025

gogeta4

Jul 12, 2025

Gocanes1990 said:
All due respect. SC saw a problem, Riley wasn’t a great roster builder. Hes an offensive wizard. He brought in a great defensive staff after his awful start with grinch. The big money people decided to get behind the program if it was run in a professional and business like way. So they brought in one of the best in the country from a front office perspective in Bowden. Yes they are spending a lot of money, so is everyone. What do you think we do? Our roster is probably north of $28m… that’s sickening. This is now a professional sport, we either treat it as such or we will be run over.

the big money were spending before at usc as well. They just suck...yallf orgot they bought up everything n the portal an lost...now they are buying up everything hs and are still gonna lose because riley isnt that good of a coach. He tried to run to usc to get away with a sorrier conference then usc jumps to the big ten where they have no chance of winning that conference lol i just know he was mad when that happened.

pacusmc

Jul 12, 2025

Shooter McGavin said:
Still waiting for the Dennis Smith details

It’s a marathon
Live look at the marathon

WR Cane

Jul 12, 2025

Green to UGA as we sit

canefan96

Jul 12, 2025

aleahy said:
Paying Mario to be outside of the top 10 recruiting makes zero sense. We might as well pay a technical coach and give him a budget to recruit at a 10-15 level.

Mario needs to get these done with the exorbitant budget he has. Otherwise, he’s useless.

****, at this rate both UF and FSucks May have recruiting classes better then ours this year - Totally Unacceptable.

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nickster

Jul 12, 2025

Calinative said:
So what does that make the 8 win Gators team that dot dominated by that Miami team... cause seems some here are riding them harder than they are riding our team last year lol

If you watched the game you will notice there were 2 horrific moronic penalties by the Gators that changed the ENTIRE complexion of the game. The game this year will be very tight and forget about last year.

Calinative

Jul 12, 2025

Gocanes1990 said:
But the fact is, like any business it comes down to management. And what I am trying my best to articulate is ours sucks. And until we have a real GM and real structure we’re ****ed. With mario I don’t see that changing.

I mean half you insiders say we are very professionally run and especially recently have upgraded a lot of aspects of our approach AND that even Dennis Smith had already received a big demotion.... yet half say stuff like this, and then EVERY single time anything negative happens in recruiting you will see a "Dennis Sniff Sucks" type of response....

So no I don't think it is a fact or anything that we are more poorly run than USC lol. In fact If I were betting, I'd definitely bet we are better run than they are. I guess we will see if their recruiting class falls apart like it did last year and when their GM guy was at ND when their class fell apart as well... I mean maybe with all the NIL changes this year and how contracts will run, mabye getting ALL those guys on board asap does end up working in their favor this year. It didn't last year though. And it didn't when that dude was at ND either....