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Rank the '21 class

Rank the '21 class

DMoney
If you haven't seen @Lance Roffers's detailed class breakdown, check it out here, here and here.

For the rest of us, I figured we'd resurrect the annual tradition of ranking the class. Post yours below. I broke mine down into tiers and then ranked them within the tier. In honor of spring training, I used baseball analogies.

Home Runs

Elite prospects with high ceilings and high floors. The true blue chippers.

1. Leonard Taylor- Prototypical 3-technique in Manny’s upfield defense. Still looks like a baby and is only scratching the surface physically.
2. James Williams- His physical tools stand out, but this is a high IQ player with a passion for football. Smart enough to play all over the defense.
3. Elijah Arroyo- Long, athletic, tough, natural pass catcher and route runner. Similar to Kellen Winslow II on the field.

Doubles

These are talented players who are easy to project to the next level. They aren’t as physically gifted as the first group, but they're very good.

4. Kamren Kinchens- Special intangibles and a complete skillset at safety. Bigger and more talented version of Jaquan Johnson.
5. Laurence Seymore- Five-star player in a two-star body. Quick, balanced athlete with a strong lower body and dynamite in his hands.
6. Chase Smith- An easy fit at striker. 6’4 with outstanding movement skills. Huge potential if he bulks up.
7. Thaddius Franklin- Smooth 225-pound athlete who played basketball and dabbled at QB. Ultra-productive and natural as a runner.
8. Romello Brinson- I have the receivers grouped close together, but Brinson is the most complete of the group. Dee Wiggins-type length and movement skills with much more toughness and better hands.
9. Brashard Smith- Big-play specialist with a RB build in the slot. Deceptive tackle-breaking ability similar to Kedarius Toney.
10. Jacolby George- Productive South Florida WR who makes it look easy. Plays faster than his speed by changing pace, and plays bigger than his size with strong hands.
11. Ryan Rodriguez- This guy screams “starter on a championship team.” Technician with impeccable hand placement. Bigger and more athletic than you’d expect in person.

Big Swings

Boom or bust. These kids have the NFL potential to land in the first group (often even more than the second group), but there is some significant projection involved.

12. Jake Garcia- Nearly every QB falls in this category. If they hit, they’re stars, if they bust, they transfer. Garcia has everything you want except quick-twitch athleticism. His ability to elude the first rusher will make him or break him.
13. Tyler Johnson- The strength of a wrestler and the movement skills of a safety. Ragdolled Julian Armella at times last year. Can he keep his temper in check and make the transition from EDGE to LB?
14. Thomas Davis- Big-time quickness and upfield explosion. The question is position- at 6’0, does he stay at DE or move to LB?
15. Jabari Ishmael- Long (6’6) projection player who was athletic enough to play as an off-ball LB. He needs to turn the tools into pass-rush production.
16. Michael McClaughlin- Has a lot of the uncoachables- size, IQ, intensity and movement. Used poor technique to dominate bad competition. Can he get more bend and roll his hips at 6'7?
17. Malik Curtis- Every week he made a highlight-reel play. Travis Benjamin-type speed with more size. He needs to prove he is tough enough to be a full-time defender.

Singles

Low-ceiling, high-floor guys who have the skills to be effective college players.

18. Deshawn Troutman- Fast, instinctual linebacker with tremendous production. Size and strength is the question with him.
19. Allan Haye- Limited by size, but an emerging converted BBall player who finds a way to hit the QB.
20. Kahlil Brantley- All-around football player who has played QB, WR, TE and LB. Outstanding hands but average physical traits. Similar to Larry Hodges.

The Kicker

21. Andres Borregales- Won’t claim to be able to evaluate Ks, but he seems to have a hell of a leg.
 

Comments (88)

Great list, Dmoney!

Program changers: (The guys that could get us to the CFP multiple times before they leave)

Leonard Taylor - Manchild. 5* guy who needs no introduction.

James Williams - See above. I laugh at the people who constantly said he would transition to a LB in college. Go look at that kids safety highlights this past year. Thats what a 5* safety looks like if anyone ever needs a reference.

Kam Kitchens - A bigger, more talented version of Jaquan, ya say? That is a 1st team AA and Thorpe award finalist.

Prime Time players: (The guys who will be household names and the College Gameday crew will know them well)

Elijah Arroyo - Love the KW2 reference. Not sure how he wasnt a 5*.
Brashard Smith - Cant believe I entered a debate on whether we should get this kid or Yul Brown. LOL. I feel foolish now. This kid is primetime.
Chase Smith - He and JW and KK roaming the secondary for 2 years together will be a treat to watch. This kid will look freakish in 2 years.
Ryan Rodriguez - I said he will be our "Brett Romberg". National name. Leader of the team. Program spokesperson.

All Conference (The guys who will make an All Conf team before they graduate)

Big Baby Seymoure - I think people have said it but if he were 6'3 he would be a 5*. But will still have a good career.
Romello Brinson - If he can develop his game, he can have a "Tommy Streeter- 2011" type year at least 2 times.
Thomas Davis - Hate to say it but if he were 6'2 would he have gotten out of SEC country? (UGA, Bama, LSU) This kid is a monster.
Thad Franklin - Hoping he stays and doesnt transfer if he doesnt feel he is getting enough PT. Kid has the shaky hand.
Andre B - Assuming he got his brothers genes of course.

Championship glue guys ( The guys you absolutely need on a championship team.)

Deshawn Troutman and Tyler Johnson - Put them together. Always need some bad a$$e$ on the team. The guys who will go to the other teams sidelines to get a teammate if he was tackled on their sideline and make sure hes not F'd with. And they both have bad a$$ potential at LB.

Malik Curtis - Need big play guys who will pop and give explosive plays when you least expect it. I like Curtis alot.

Allen Haye - Who do you think was doing the dirty work while Warren sapp was getting all the glory in 1994? Pat Riley. Need someone to be selfless when LT is all over the national news every week and not get jealous. Just comes to play and do his job and love every minute of it.

Jacolby George - I can see him being "Daryl Jones - 2001". Forgotten guy who ends up playing a big role in a CFP year.
Kahlil Brantly - Team Ambassador. Will keep everyone in line. Gotta have those guys.

Jury is out: (The guys who I am not sure about just yet)

Jabari Ishmael - Many people said they wanted Patrick Payton instead. Not a good sign for this kid if he hasnt even hit campus yet.
Michael McLaughlin - Alot of "ifs" with this kid. ALOT. If he pans out, hes a star. If he doesnt, he is Zack Dykstra
Jake Garcia - Yeah I know this isnt popular BUT if he loses the job to TVD in 2022, will he stick around? Will his dad let him even if he wants to?


This was fun. Got the blood flowing early in the morning! lol.
 
Totally agree on the elite category of Taylor, Williams, arroyo. The very next tier for me is kinchens, brashard, big baby, chase, romello. And albeit a 3rd tier in my estimation I was high on the film of thomas davis (even at 6 feet I see him as a d end & I'm psyched to see what Simpson does with him), rodriguez, malik curtis, and jake garcia too. Everyone else not listed will require a fair amount of development before they make an impact IMO.
 
Great list, Dmoney!

Program changers: (The guys that could get us to the CFP multiple times before they leave)

Leonard Taylor - Manchild. 5* guy who needs no introduction.

James Williams - See above. I laugh at the people who constantly said he would transition to a LB in college. Go look at that kids safety highlights this past year. Thats what a 5* safety looks like if anyone ever needs a reference.

Kam Kitchens - A bigger, more talented version of Jaquan, ya say? That is a 1st team AA and Thorpe award finalist.

Prime Time players: (The guys who will be household names and the College Gameday crew will know them well)

Elijah Arroyo - Love the KW2 reference. Not sure how he wasnt a 5*.
Brashard Smith - Cant believe I entered a debate on whether we should get this kid or Yul Brown. LOL. I feel foolish now. This kid is primetime.
Chase Smith - He and JW and KK roaming the secondary for 2 years together will be a treat to watch. This kid will look freakish in 2 years.
Ryan Rodriguez - I said he will be our "Brett Romberg". National name. Leader of the team. Program spokesperson.

All Conference (The guys who will make an All Conf team before they graduate)

Big Baby Seymoure - I think people have said it but if he were 6'3 he would be a 5*. But will still have a good career.
Romello Brinson - If he can develop his game, he can have a "Tommy Streeter- 2011" type year at least 2 times.
Thomas Davis - Hate to say it but if he were 6'2 would he have gotten out of SEC country? (UGA, Bama, LSU) This kid is a monster.
Thad Franklin - Hoping he stays and doesnt transfer if he doesnt feel he is getting enough PT. Kid has the shaky hand.
Andre B - Assuming he got his brothers genes of course.

Championship glue guys ( The guys you absolutely need on a championship team.)

Deshawn Troutman and Tyler Johnson - Put them together. Always need some bad a$$e$ on the team. The guys who will go to the other teams sidelines to get a teammate if he was tackled on their sideline and make sure hes not F'd with. And they both have bad a$$ potential at LB.

Malik Curtis - Need big play guys who will pop and give explosive plays when you least expect it. I like Curtis alot.

Allen Haye - Who do you think was doing the dirty work while Warren sapp was getting all the glory in 1994? Pat Riley. Need someone to be selfless when LT is all over the national news every week and not get jealous. Just comes to play and do his job and love every minute of it.

Jacolby George - I can see him being "Daryl Jones - 2001". Forgotten guy who ends up playing a big role in a CFP year.
Kahlil Brantly - Team Ambassador. Will keep everyone in line. Gotta have those guys.

Jury is out: (The guys who I am not sure about just yet)

Jabari Ishmael - Many people said they wanted Patrick Payton instead. Not a good sign for this kid if he hasnt even hit campus yet.
Michael McLaughlin - Alot of "ifs" with this kid. ALOT. If he pans out, hes a star. If he doesnt, he is Zack Dykstra
Jake Garcia - Yeah I know this isnt popular BUT if he loses the job to TVD in 2022, will he stick around? Will his dad let him even if he wants to?


This was fun. Got the blood flowing early in the morning! lol.
Had the same thought about Kinchens, kid is going to be a stud.
 
If you haven't seen @Lance Roffers's detailed class breakdown, check it out here, here and here.

For the rest of us, I figured we'd resurrect the annual tradition of ranking the class. Post yours below. I broke mine down into tiers and then ranked them within the tier. In honor of spring training, I used baseball analogies.

Home Runs

Elite prospects with high ceilings and high floors. The true blue chippers.

1. Leonard Taylor- Prototypical 3-technique in Manny’s upfield defense. Still looks like a baby and is only scratching the surface physically.
2. James Williams- His physical tools stand out, but this is a high IQ player with a passion for football. Smart enough to play all over the defense.
3. Elijah Arroyo- Long, athletic, tough, natural pass catcher and route runner. Similar to Kellen Winslow II on the field.

Doubles

These are talented players who are easy to project to the next level. They aren’t as physically gifted as the first group, but they're very good.

4. Kamren Kinchens- Special intangibles and a complete skillset at safety. Bigger and more talented version of Jaquan Johnson.
5. Laurence Seymore- Five-star player in a two-star body. Quick, balanced athlete with a strong lower body and dynamite in his hands.
6. Chase Smith- An easy fit at striker. 6’4 with outstanding movement skills. Huge potential if he bulks up.
7. Thaddius Franklin- Smooth 225-pound athlete who played basketball and dabbled at QB. Ultra-productive and natural as a runner.
8. Romello Brinson- I have the receivers grouped close together, but Brinson is the most complete of the group. Dee Wiggins-type length and movement skills with much more toughness and better hands.
9. Brashard Smith- Big-play specialist with a RB build in the slot. Deceptive tackle-breaking ability similar to Kedarius Toney.
10. Jacolby George- Productive South Florida WR who makes it look easy. Plays faster than his speed by changing pace, and plays bigger than his size with strong hands.
11. Ryan Rodriguez- This guy screams “starter on a championship team.” Technician with impeccable hand placement. Bigger and more athletic than you’d expect in person.

Big Swings

Boom or bust. These kids have the NFL potential to land in the first group (often even more than the second group), but there is some significant projection involved.

12. Jake Garcia- Nearly every QB falls in this category. If they hit, they’re stars, if they bust, they transfer. Garcia has everything you want except quick-twitch athleticism. His ability to elude the first rusher will make him or break him.
13. Tyler Johnson- The strength of a wrestler and the movement skills of a safety. Ragdolled Julian Armella at times last year. Can he keep his temper in check and make the transition from EDGE to LB?
14. Thomas Davis- Big-time quickness and upfield explosion. The question is position- at 6’0, does he stay at DE or move to LB?
15. Jabari Ishmael- Long (6’6) projection player who was athletic enough to play as an off-ball LB. He needs to turn the tools into pass-rush production.
16. Michael McClaughlin- Has a lot of the uncoachables- size, IQ, intensity and movement. Used poor technique to dominate bad competition. Can he get more bend and roll his hips at 6'7?
17. Malik Curtis- Every week he made a highlight-reel play. Travis Benjamin-type speed with more size. He needs to prove he is tough enough to be a full-time defender.

Singles

Low-ceiling, high-floor guys who have the skills to be effective college players.

18. Deshawn Troutman- Fast, instinctual linebacker with tremendous production. Size and strength is the question with him.
19. Allan Haye- Limited by size, but an emerging converted BBall player who finds a way to hit the QB.
20. Kahlil Brantley- All-around football player who has played QB, WR, TE and LB. Outstanding hands but average physical traits. Similar to Larry Hodges.

The Kicker

21. Andres Borregales- Won’t claim to be able to evaluate Ks, but he seems to have a hell of a leg.
8. Romello Brinson- I have the receivers grouped close together, but Brinson is the most complete of the group. Dee Wiggins-type length and movement skills with much more toughness and better hands.


The only WR you can compare Wiggins too is Poop, they share sh!tty hands and work ethic
 
All conference ceiling/ role player floor:

  1. James Williams
  2. Leonard taylor
  3. Laurence Seymore
  4. Romello Brinson
  5. Elijah Arroyo
  6. Kam Kinchens

The Second Level (high ceiling/lower floor then the upper level):

  1. Chase Smith
  2. Thad Franklin
  3. Brashard Smith
  4. Ryan Rodriguez
  5. Malik Curtis

The boom or busts:

  1. Jake Garcia
  2. Michael McLaughlin
  3. Jabari Ishmael
  4. Jacolby George
  5. Thomas Davis
  6. Tyler Johnson

Lower ceiling guys:

  1. Deshawn Troutman
  2. Kahlil Brantley
  3. Allan Haye

Kicker: Andres Borregales (I’m no kicker expert)
 
When are fans going to learn the true value of a kicker. Look at the difference between Manny year 1 and 2. How many times
during the course of the season does it come down to field goal, regardless if it is at the end or beginning of the game, even
in the pro's. Andre actually had a slightly better high school career, than his older brother. Hopefully he matches or exceeds
him. I am putting him in the home run category, we will find out real soon if the three already mentioned, and Andre, meet expectations.
 
When are fans going to learn the true value of a kicker. Look at the difference between Manny year 1 and 2. How many times
during the course of the season does it come down to field goal, regardless if it is at the end or beginning of the game, even
in the pro's. Andre actually had a slightly better high school career, than his older brother. Hopefully he matches or exceeds
him. I am putting him in the home run category, we will find out real soon if the three already mentioned, and Andre, meet expectations.
Just to be clear, I only ranked him in his own category because I won't pretend to evaluate kickers with any precision.

From what we can see, he looks like a stud and if he's as good as his brother he'll make a huge difference in Ws and Ls.
 
1. James Williams
2. Leonard Taylor
3. Kamren Kinchens
4. Elijah Arroyo
5. Laurence Seymore
6. Thaddius Franklin
7. Jake Garcia
8. Romello Brinson
9. Brashard Smith
10. Chase Smith
11. Ryan Rodriguez
12. Thomas Davis
13. Jacolby George
14. Deshawn Troutman
15. Michael McClaughlin
16. Malik Curtis
17. Tyler Johnson
18. Kahlil Brantley
19. Allan Haye
20. Jabari Ishmael

Difficult exercise with all the talent in this class. Almost all of these recruits look like they can be effective starters, at a minimum. Several guys who look like they could be in contention for All-ACC honors by year 3. And a handful of players who have the potential to be All Americans.

*I'm not ranking Andy Borregales, but he's a stud and almost certainly has the best chance of anyone on this list of being a Game 1 starter.
 
1. Elijah Arroyo
2. Leonard Taylor
3. Kamren Kinchens
4. Chase Smith
5. Thad Franklin
6. Romello Brinson
7. Malik Curtis
8. Kahlil Brantley
9. Jacolby George
10. James Williams
11. Ryan Rodriguez
12. Laurence Seymore
13. Allan Haye
14. Jabari Ishmael
15. Thomas Davis
16. Brashard Smith
17. Tyler Johnson
18. Deshawn Troutman
19. Michael McLaughlin
20. Andres Borregales
21. Jake Garcia
 
1. Elijah Arroyo
2. Leonard Taylor
3. Kamren Kinchens
4. Chase Smith
5. Thad Franklin
6. Romello Brinson
7. Malik Curtis
8. Kahlil Brantley
9. Jacolby George
10. James Williams
11. Ryan Rodriguez
12. Laurence Seymore
13. Allan Haye
14. Jabari Ishmael
15. Thomas Davis
16. Brashard Smith
17. Tyler Johnson
18. Deshawn Troutman
19. Michael McLaughlin
20. Andres Borregales
21. Jake Garcia

You have a Top 10 player nationally 10th in our class?

Interesting.
 

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