Would be a commitment win if Smith said yes to UM. Don't see it though...kid is being told he da' man at either LSU or Bama...

TimeB0mb said:

Our wr haul this year might be disappointing but personally I chalk that up to the fact that the recruiting for these kids started around ninth grade. If a school wasn't in the game three years ago, chances of getting a flip seem dim. I don't think playing for Al Golden was an exciting prospect for many elite wrs. I think many of the kids in S FL have love for the hometown team but still have to feel that the team will be competing for national championships. Maybe it's just the new car smell, but I sense that Miami is finally trending up and we will be in the drivers seat to get the best local talent in 2018 and 2019.

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There are no excuses for striking out on every top WR target if Jeudy and Smith also sign elsewhere. Forget talk of three-year relationship building, a worst-of-all-time former coach who was fired over a year ago, and looking ahead to future classes when we should be in the midst of reaping the benefits of the first full-year recruiting bump.

Our head coach routinely pulled Top 10 classes at Georgia. We have one receiver on the roster with difference-making talent (Richards). We cannot afford to settle for a bunch of backup plans at one of our greatest areas of need and there are no excuses for it if it happens.

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I think Lane Kiffin is the kicker on where these two pick:

Scenario #1 - Kiffin goes to LSU as OC. In this scenario I see Smith staying home. I think if he does go to LSU then we have a much better shot at Jeudy.

Scenario #2 - Kiffin stays and Jeudy goes to Bama and Smith makes a decision based on LSU's OC hire. Risk your college years on a new OC in a new school under a failed HC or go to Miami where Richt is tried and true.

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I'm pretty confident Smith is not coming here either way, so we all need to hope Kiffin bolts for LSU, or any school for that matter.

My favorite receiver in the class. Elite body control. Elite athleticism. Excellent hands.

With weight he's going to make a lot of money during the course of his NFL career

01Canes said:

TimeB0mb said:

Our wr haul this year might be disappointing but personally I chalk that up to the fact that the recruiting for these kids started around ninth grade. If a school wasn't in the game three years ago, chances of getting a flip seem dim. I don't think playing for Al Golden was an exciting prospect for many elite wrs. I think many of the kids in S FL have love for the hometown team but still have to feel that the team will be competing for national championships. Maybe it's just the new car smell, but I sense that Miami is finally trending up and we will be in the drivers seat to get the best local talent in 2018 and 2019.

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There are no excuses for striking out on every top WR target if Jeudy and Smith also sign elsewhere. Forget talk of three-year relationship building, a worst-of-all-time former coach who was fired over a year ago, and looking ahead to future classes when we should be in the midst of reaping the benefits of the first full-year recruiting bump.

Our head coach routinely pulled Top 10 classes at Georgia. We have one receiver on the roster with difference-making talent (Richards). We cannot afford to settle for a bunch of backup plans at one of our greatest areas of need and there are no excuses for it if it happens.

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If you want to call it excuse making, that's your call. I said this class is probably going to be disappointing. The question is whether Richt could have done something differently to change the result. Imo, short of dropping off a giant duffle bag of cash, chances that if you swapped Richt for the most elite recruiter, we still wouldn't beat out Bama for recruits this year. It is what it is. Unless Richt screwed it up by ignoring the recruits or playing games with them, I don't see the point in crucifying him for not landing these guys THIS year. Like you said Richt has a long successful track record of being able to get done on the recruiting trail once he is properly established. If we miss out again in 2018 and 2019 then I'll be singing a different tune.

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mjackson6 said:

Smith is just as good of a prospect as Holloman. They have different style though. Smith is basically a Stacy Coley clone and would jump right in and fill in for him.

6'1'' and runs a smooth 4.45 with a ton of room to fill out. Holloman is further developed in his frame but Smith is going to be **** good too. We all knew how unlikely it was that we land either of them.

I hope the staff saw it, idc what Holloman was telling them we all saw it from a mile away. If they let Holloman play them then it's on them if they don't have a backup plan. I hope they had the 5 guys in line behind him in the plans.

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this is where we're going to fall short, imo, and it's been my biggest frustation with WR recruiting this year. We put all of our eggs into the Smith/Hollomon/Jeudy basket. I have nothing against going after top kids, but when all your top targets are huge SEC targets, that's not setting yourself up for success. Now, we're left picking up the pieces with Harley and Dingle. Nice players, but backup plans.

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So what basket should they have put their eggs in if not going for the top kids?

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I never said they shouldn't go after top kids. I would have liked them go after more in-state kids or some other OOS kids not in the heart of SEC country.

Dugans landed Ahmon Richards, Sam Bruce, Dionte Mullins, Evidence Njoku, Dayall Harris and most likely Mike Harley; however, he is a weak recruiter?

You are a weak brained fool.

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Peter Ariz said:

The Miami Hurricanes will make an in-home visit with five-star wide receiver target Devonta Smith later this week, a source told CanesInSight.

Miami will also get Smith on campus for an official visit -- that date will be set after the in-home.

The Louisiana native Smith is also considering Alabama and LSU. Ron Dugans has developed a strong relationship with Smith, who becomes even more of a priority after Jeremiah Holloman is now off the board.

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Must not be to strong or he done committed to Miami . Dugan is another weak recruiter

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I swear yall can never be happy LMAO

Yea I feel holloman was always a drama queen, his brother unfortunately won't last past one year and for some reason I feel his brother will be his downfall.

It's never as simple as you can't rrecruit you can't force these kids especially when its other factors in it especially OOS kids

Al Foil said:

Smith is a superior prospect.

Hollimon's handling of his recruiting leads me to believe he is mentally weak and will be a bust.

Not sour grapes.

Hollimon committed to Michigan then decommitted.

He told Miami he was committed on his trip.

He cancels his in home visit with Miami the day of visit.

I've followed recruiting for 25 years. Kids that act this way end up as busts most of the time.

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Nah. His problem is that hes a mommas boy & his mom's is pulling the strings. She's trying to usexplain him to get a free ship for her other son who sucks.

mjackson6 said:

Smith is just as good of a prospect as Holloman. They have different style though. Smith is basically a Stacy Coley clone and would jump right in and fill in for him.

6'1'' and runs a smooth 4.45 with a ton of room to fill out. Holloman is further developed in his frame but Smith is going to be **** good too. We all knew how unlikely it was that we land either of them.

I hope the staff saw it, idc what Holloman was telling them we all saw it from a mile away. If they let Holloman play them then it's on them if they don't have a backup plan. I hope they had the 5 guys in line behind him in the plans.

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Smith has much better speed than than Coley. This is the elite deep threat recruit this year across the country in terms of the highest rated WRs.

Al Foil said:

Smith is a superior prospect.

Hollimon's handling of his recruiting leads me to believe he is mentally weak and will be a bust.

Not sour grapes.

Hollimon committed to Michigan then decommitted.

He told Miami he was committed on his trip.

He cancels his in home visit with Miami the day of visit.

I've followed recruiting for 25 years. Kids that act this way end up as busts most of the time.

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That's almost a universal truth. When a kid handles his recruitment like a cumbag he usually busts or underperforms bigtime.

**** reality is we going to strike out on all 3...incredible fail....I know we getting Harley though but skipping a cycle without a ahmon type in sfla is a fail and it's how u stack chips. Without it depth concerns will bother later on. But Smith and juedy anything they want get one of them......I don't even like Smith but we justgotta get someone

Al Foil said:

Smith is a superior prospect.

Hollimon's handling of his recruiting leads me to believe he is mentally weak and will be a bust.

Not sour grapes.

Hollimon committed to Michigan then decommitted.

He told Miami he was committed on his trip.

He cancels his in home visit with Miami the day of visit.

I've followed recruiting for 25 years. Kids that act this way end up as busts most of the time.

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Like cook?

01Canes said:

Cannot miss on every single premier WR target (Jeudy/Holloman/Smith). Massive red flag if we can't pull blue-chip receivers when Richards is the only proven difference maker at the position on the roster.

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This all this

Huge red flags at db and wr

01Canes said:

TimeB0mb said:

Our wr haul this year might be disappointing but personally I chalk that up to the fact that the recruiting for these kids started around ninth grade. If a school wasn't in the game three years ago, chances of getting a flip seem dim. I don't think playing for Al Golden was an exciting prospect for many elite wrs. I think many of the kids in S FL have love for the hometown team but still have to feel that the team will be competing for national championships. Maybe it's just the new car smell, but I sense that Miami is finally trending up and we will be in the drivers seat to get the best local talent in 2018 and 2019.

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There are no excuses for striking out on every top WR target if Jeudy and Smith also sign elsewhere. Forget talk of three-year relationship building, a worst-of-all-time former coach who was fired over a year ago, and looking ahead to future classes when we should be in the midst of reaping the benefits of the first full-year recruiting bump.

Our head coach routinely pulled Top 10 classes at Georgia. We have one receiver on the roster with difference-making talent (Richards). We cannot afford to settle for a bunch of backup plans at one of our greatest areas of need and there are no excuses for it if it happens.

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Georgia was a 10 win team, bowl winning, SEC championship game playing, SEC East champions, with a real HC. LSU is always ranked, always hyped, was in a national championship in the last 10 years and so on. Now Miami hasnt won its division, its conference, had a competent HC in 15 years, hasnt won a bowl game in almost a decade, had a losing record last year, and just because we used to be the schit are supposed to pull blue chips? Come on man these dudes are out here pulling as much talent as they can, but we have no pull unless you were a cane fan or a richt fan period. some of our fans are delusional about how much miami is viewed as a top program by anyone.


Also LSU may never have an offense but they can sell Jarvis Landy and Odell Beckham as what they put into the leauge. What WR right now can we say look that is a Miami Hurricane? Not someone that graduated when they were 5 but someone right now that puts in work in the league like those 2? I am a diehard Miami fan but you have to look at what these kids see and are sold on and understand you cant recruit these kids on 15 year old prospects and wins.

01Canes said:

TimeB0mb said:

Our wr haul this year might be disappointing but personally I chalk that up to the fact that the recruiting for these kids started around ninth grade. If a school wasn't in the game three years ago, chances of getting a flip seem dim. I don't think playing for Al Golden was an exciting prospect for many elite wrs. I think many of the kids in S FL have love for the hometown team but still have to feel that the team will be competing for national championships. Maybe it's just the new car smell, but I sense that Miami is finally trending up and we will be in the drivers seat to get the best local talent in 2018 and 2019.

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There are no excuses for striking out on every top WR target if Jeudy and Smith also sign elsewhere. Forget talk of three-year relationship building, a worst-of-all-time former coach who was fired over a year ago, and looking ahead to future classes when we should be in the midst of reaping the benefits of the first full-year recruiting bump.

Our head coach routinely pulled Top 10 classes at Georgia. We have one receiver on the roster with difference-making talent (Richards). We cannot afford to settle for a bunch of backup plans at one of our greatest areas of need and there are no excuses for it if it happens.

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This is the truth but people won't want to hear it. New staff can do no wrong. Its a huge fail.....all it tells me its the school. If u can recruit at uga and not here it's the school....I don't know what it is but it's something. And in fkin sfla u can't get a beast we or safety? How is that possible? Juedy should be a cane u do everything possible to get him.

Then u will hear Pete say they did all they could like they used to say with AG. Shut ****es me off man....nothing against u Pete u do ur job

Dwinstitles said:

01Canes said:

Cannot miss on every single premier WR target (Jeudy/Holloman/Smith). Massive red flag if we can't pull blue-chip receivers when Richards is the only proven difference maker at the position on the roster.

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This all this

Huge red flags at db and wr

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You really are a **** tiered porster

Dwinstitles said:

01Canes said:

Cannot miss on every single premier WR target (Jeudy/Holloman/Smith). Massive red flag if we can't pull blue-chip receivers when Richards is the only proven difference maker at the position on the roster.

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This all this

Huge red flags at db and wr

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Rick had huge problems consistently signing top WRs at UGA too. Everyone points to AJ Green. But that's all they can come up with in 15 years.

And please don't hit me with a list of scrub *** WRs that he got and pretend they were top guys. He needs to keep grinding and get Smith or Jeudy, and that will erase the fail on WR this cycle.