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  • Game thoughts & observations of the WIN we needed

    This is long. If you don't like reading a bunch of words, stop here, please.

    In expectation of @HurricaneVision's screenshot analysis later in the week, I'll refrain from going too much into his territory and give a broader look. For some of you off the board, you know I've had an unhealthy obsession with breaking FSU's streak. It was physically fucking me up the last few years. I watched them all summer and over the course of this season. While they did scheme up some nice calls, they didn't do too much unexpected, which makes sense considering they're starting a True Frosh QB.

    Earlier this week, I posted in @DMoney's key matchup thread with a quick add on. You can find my key matchup discussion here: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/recruiting/122921/3

    - There, I started with Mark Richt vs Charles Kelly. I mentioned we were underestimating FSU's defense against our offense. For the majority of the game, that held true. On our last two drives, we came alive with incredible player performances. The results worked out, but I think there's a lot Coach Richt can still add into the offense. I'm not a fan of our route combinations, but I'll see that out of this thread.

    - Limited on time, I didn't get into Manny Diaz in that thread, but expected better from him yesterday. He still did ok for the majority of the game, but there were some philosophical things I disagreed on. Some of you know I'm a supporter of zone blitzes. I am not a supporter of zone blitzes as the repetitive staple of a defense when it's impractical. Many times yesterday, it was NOT practical. In fact, I think @HurricaneVision's play review will show we sometimes did better when we simply rushed 4 and made the FSU QB make plays. We had enough to be relatively simple against them and dominate.

    Again, while I appreciate zone blitz sprinkles, I don't want to eat a zone blitz steak for dessert. If you go back to my review of Coach Diaz (whose philosophy I'm a big supporter of and someone I think gives us a good chance overall), my concern was his desire to live off the blitz too often. I openly discussed with former poster GoldenShowers whether that was an issue of feeling like he needed it because of talent or not. Yesterday, we didn't "need" to blitz in some moments we did. It'd be unfair to say otherwise, as we got caught with someone like Trent Harris chasing downfield. Overall, though, as we'll get to below, he gave us a good enough chance to win against a good FSU offensive coaching staff and his players could have helped more, too.

    - Malik Rosier. During the Al Golden years, I constantly said "there is nothing worse than losing conservatively." It was painful. I just wanted us to play with balls and go down swinging. I didn't get to watch Malik in practice this spring or Fall, so I had no idea what to expect and therefore stayed out of predictions about what he'd do. I had noted in previous years he was inaccurate when I had watched him in practice. He's still inaccurate at times and that is completely overwhelmed by the simple fact he takes chances.

    Whether he costs us a game or not later in the season, I'll remember this dude as the MAN who broke the FSU streak. I saw some people calling him a "bytch" in the gameday thread. I don't understand this view. He runs for first downs and takes hits. He takes shots downfield. He's a tick slow in anticipation, but let's call out facts: he takes the chances needed to win games (and that's before the big game-winning throw). Probably the lasting memory I have of the game was Richt pointing to his own head telling Malik Rosier to "be smart" before our last offensive play. When FSU crowded the line, a friend and I told each other "just take a fucking shot." He did. And, here we are.

    - Mark Walton. I feel for the guy. I'm sure he wanted to show out here, but I think we can reasonably see he's hobbled. Saw it a couple times when he cutback and they were anything but sharp. Get healthy and be ready for VTech, please. He did give us a handful of great pass blocks, which is why I imagine Richt kept him in there over Homer.

    Speaking of Travis Homer, he's up there as one of the top 5 most important guys in getting our W. Despite barely playing snaps. The runs in the 4th quarter were bigger than big. Breaking the tackle and getting the first down in that last drive saved critical seconds.

    - Ahmmon Richards wasn't used as I'd hoped. He pretty much was sent out there about the same as we've seen and wasn't provided too many motion or mismatch opportunities. Memory says he was held a ton and also missed a couple plays, but we absolutely need this guy. If we're going to be trotting out relatively simple concepts and relying on fundamentals, then we need superstars like this guy. Hope his hamstring or whatever was hobbling him gets better quickly. He changes everything for the entire offense, as I said in the key matchup thread.

    In the linked thread above, I said this: "If FSU is arrogant enough to toss Mcfadden at him in single coverage, I think Richards can have a breakout game against a "big name." I said this for a specific reason. Although talented, I think Mcfadden can be had. Big #81 helped reinforce that.

    - I don't think we used Chris Herndon enough. He showed up in our playcalls when we desperately needed it, but this is something I believe we should establish earlier. He doesn't need to run long-developing routes.

    - After the game, Lawrence Cager apparently said he'd played the worst game of his life. So, I guess I don't have to go in too deeply that he played small. It was disappointing. The big, flashy image he's projected needs to be matched by a guy who steps up in tough moments.

    - In the linked thread above, my lucky guess happened to come to fruition when I said: A key player matchup to watch here will be FSU's Kyle Meyers. He is very talented. I'd like to see him forced to read combination routes or get naturally picked off inside because he can hang athletically with all of our guys and probably has an [athletic] advantage on Berrios. I think Berrios can beat him on the underneath routes, though. Get him in whip routes and moving across the field, please. This is a call to Richt to throw out everything he's got against this DBackfield.

    The game basically came down to this matchup and we won because we won the matchup. Braxton Berrios will be a legend regardless of what he does going forward. Even draped in coverage at times, he made plays. The guy was laser focused and, as cheesy as it is to say, just wanted it more. Over and over. Amazing work. In terms of the bolded quote above about whip routes, I think it was arguably the most important play of the game. When we needed it most with time running out, Richt successfully called a whip route to Berrios, Malik put it on the money, and Berrios broke a tackle to get us in a position (the 25) to take a real shot. If that play doesn't happen, I doubt we toss one to the end zone and perhaps we don't even have enough time. It's the type of route I believe Berrios can consistently win, which is why I mentioned it before the game.

    - Our Offensive Line needs help in the run game against talented DL like FSU. Luckily, we may not face too many more. I would have liked to see a few more max protection schemes, as I had hoped for in the matchup thread. I would also like to see more motion. To run the ball effectively against equal talent, I think we have to concede will need a little more deception.

    - Our Defensive Line deserves a bunch of credit for keeping us in this game long enough for the offense to wake up. Frankly, I think their responsibilities should be simplified more often. When they were asked to rush 4, they mostly did their jobs, pushed the young FSU QB off his spot, etc. Just let these guys play. As I said above, I'm a fan of sprinkled in zone blitzes because I think the deception dictates to offenses. But, we don't need to rely on them and we don't need to consistently see Joe Jackson and Trent Harris chasing downfield. RJ Mcintosh played a great game. There were times other guys got the stat, but he made the play. Kendrick Norton also played well, and now probably has the outright record for most times held by an OL in a row. HOLY SHIT did that FSU team hold and claw. WOW! I mean, Chad Thomas' pads were almost taken off on one play.

    - I've talked about our LBs on other threads. Zack Mccloud is my favorite (not best) prospect and he's struggling some. Shaq isn't making the splash plays we expected. Pinckney has stood out to most above the others, but if you watch closely he also has gotten caught in the wash. Overall, the perception is part factual based on plays not made and a perception thing based on what was expected. Coach Diaz also needs to help them out with simplification. I'd like to see us man up less talented teams more often. In coverage on poorly timed zone blitzes, our guys are just not tight enough with the Safeties to be successful. My general thoughts on the LB situation in this ongoing thread: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/...cloud/123170/2
    As I mentioned there, this is one area I expect to be fixed. Too many things in our favor here.

    - The corners expectedly did fine in this game. It was a solid matchup for them considering the FSU QB situation and what FSU does on offense. Obviously, we have issues at Nickel/Safety. In the linked key matchup thread above, I mentioned this as a potentially critical matchup. Well, we almost lost the game because our backup Safety made a poor play on an FSU slot. On that disastrous play, FSU ran their guy in motion to the bottom of the screen. Whether it was a miscommunication or whatever, Knowles robotically played the #2 WR (inside guy) who had been motioned over. He became the third defender on an underneath player. He left the vertical route completely clean. It was just a blown play where the Safety has to stay over the top and understand game situation.

    If Redwine had been in the game, I'd like to think this doesn't happen. But, such is football. Guys get hurt. We badly need him back! We have serious issues at Safety and it's actually hurting our LBs. Again, while I'm a Diaz supporter, this comes back to him. In a game like FSU, rely more on the front 4 and simplify the coverages behind it. I trust a lot of these things get cleaned up. I'm weary of our depth and Safety situation. It sends ripple effects throughout the defense.

    - My biggest observation is we played to win. Maybe it's the stench of the previous staff and the 7 year curse. But, this philosophy change cannot be understated. And, despite any issues we've seen so far, we should be celebrating. Until tomorrow, when we go back to work and need to get up on GT quickly so we can protect our players from their bullshit.
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    1. JHallCanes's Avatar
      JHallCanes -
      Good stuff man.

      Rule #1 don't read the gameday thread. Our fans are an embarrassment in those threads.


      I never thought I would say "DONT BLITZ" that many times in my life. The posters that said we shouldn't blitz earlier in the week were dead on. Making Blackman make reads was absolutely key early on. He couldn't do it. It was hard watching us give up big runs, but I agree with the approach for the most part.

      Our LBs need to be a lot better next week or GT is going to be a tougher game than we want. Our DL should carry us this year though.

      I remember the two-play combo we did to Herndon late in the game. That was one of those few times where I saw Richt take advantage of the defense. He figured out too late with Njoku last year so seeing him get Herndon involved was great, and seeing it succeed should help him calling plays. He's not Njoku, but he's plenty capable especially with Richard and Berrios playing at a high level.


      ****ing finally man. Finally. **** was killing me inside.
    1. Cribby's Avatar
      Cribby -
      Good stuff as usual.

      I fully agree especially with the zone blitz stuff. It's good when sprinkled but he uses at insane times. Which infuriates me, it actually almost lost us the game multiple times.

      I'm more of a man blitz kinda guy but like the zone blitzes he uses them at asinine times. He actually flirts with straight up wreckless / suicidal play calls. Bringing guys on third and forever from 20 yards off is just wreckless.

      It's like he just does it to say " hey, look how clever I am , I drew up this sophisticated blitz. I'm Jim Johnson and Dick Labeaus love child".

      Which is cute and all but will cost us games down the road , which it shouldn't. We have a good front that can get there without all this mess, less cute blitzes and more 4 man rush with 2 deep safety. Especially on third and forevers.
    1. Cribby's Avatar
      Cribby -
      JHallCanes said: View Post
      Good stuff man.

      Rule #1 don't read the gameday thread. Our fans are an embarrassment in those threads.


      I never thought I would say "DONT BLITZ" that many times in my life. The posters that said we shouldn't blitz earlier in the week were dead on. Making Blackman make reads was absolutely key early on. He couldn't do it. It was hard watching us give up big runs, but I agree with the approach for the most part.

      Our LBs need to be a lot better next week or GT is going to be a tougher game than we want. Our DL should carry us this year though.

      I remember the two-play combo we did to Herndon late in the game. That was one of those few times where I saw Richt take advantage of the defense. He figured out too late with Njoku last year so seeing him get Herndon involved was great, and seeing it succeed should help him calling plays. He's not Njoku, but he's plenty capable especially with Richard and Berrios playing at a high level.


      ****ing finally man. Finally. **** was killing me inside.
      This is what chaps my buttocks so much. Dude is running these idiotic blitzes to nauseam at stupid times. Against a qb that's scouting/ stats shows is great against the blitz but awful against defenses playing coverage. It's obvious you make the young guy go through progressions and wait for him to make mistakes.
    1. mydas77's Avatar
      mydas77 -
      Thanks, Lu. Great insight

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    1. LuCane's Avatar
      LuCane -
      Cribby said: View Post
      JHallCanes said: View Post
      Good stuff man.

      Rule #1 don't read the gameday thread. Our fans are an embarrassment in those threads.


      I never thought I would say "DONT BLITZ" that many times in my life. The posters that said we shouldn't blitz earlier in the week were dead on. Making Blackman make reads was absolutely key early on. He couldn't do it. It was hard watching us give up big runs, but I agree with the approach for the most part.

      Our LBs need to be a lot better next week or GT is going to be a tougher game than we want. Our DL should carry us this year though.

      I remember the two-play combo we did to Herndon late in the game. That was one of those few times where I saw Richt take advantage of the defense. He figured out too late with Njoku last year so seeing him get Herndon involved was great, and seeing it succeed should help him calling plays. He's not Njoku, but he's plenty capable especially with Richard and Berrios playing at a high level.


      ****ing finally man. Finally. **** was killing me inside.
      This is what chaos my buttocks so much. Dude is running these idiotic blitzes to nauseam at stupid times. Against a qb that's scouting/ stats shows is great against the blitz but awful against defenses playing coverage. It's obvious you make the young guy go through progressions and wait for him to make mistakes.
      I wasn't notetaking yesterday, of course, but he actually did it well for what seemed like more than 50% of the time. He's like a golfer who goes back to the bad swing, though. Like JHALL, I'd probably be the last guy you expect to be screaming "don't blitz" as loudly and often as I did on the last couple defensive drives. Especially since I had seen success earlier. Again, I think he'll see the stats and film and correct it. I have some faith.
    1. mydas77's Avatar
      mydas77 -
      Cribby said: View Post
      Good stuff as usual.

      I fully agree especially with the zone blitz stuff. It's good when sprinkled but he uses at insane times. Which infuriates me, it actually almost lost us the game multiple times.

      I'm more of a man blitz kinda guy but like the zone blitzes he uses them at asinine times. He actually flirts with straight up wreckless / suicidal play calls. Bringing guys on third and forever from 20 yards off is just wreckless.

      It's like he just does it to say " hey, look how clever I am , I drew up this sophisticated blitz. I'm Jim Johnson and Dick Labeaus love child".

      Which is cute and all but will cost us games down the road , which it shouldn't. We have a good front that can get there without all this mess, less cute blitzes and more 4 man rush with 2 deep safety. Especially on third and forevers.
      I think he's not tyring to be cute. He is trying to force the hot throw by bring that blitz in those 3rd and long situations. It worked well against Duke towards the end of the game. It's risky, but that's what I think the thought process is. Dictate to the offense and make them take the short throw or be sacked. It's a hit or miss strategy so far.

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    1. Cash's Avatar
      Cash -
      LuCane said: View Post
      This is long. If you don't like reading a bunch of words, stop here, please.

      In expectation of @HurricaneVision's screenshot analysis later in the week, I'll refrain from going too much into his territory and give a broader look. For some of you off the board, you know I've had an unhealthy obsession with breaking FSU's streak. It was physically ****ing me up the last few years. I watched them all summer and over the course of this season. While they did scheme up some nice calls, they didn't do too much unexpected, which makes sense considering they're starting a True Frosh QB.

      Earlier this week, I posted in @DMoney's key matchup thread with a quick add on. You can find my key matchup discussion here: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/recruiting/122921/3

      - There, I started with Mark Richt vs Charles Kelly. I mentioned we were underestimating FSU's defense against our offense. For the majority of the game, that held true. On our last two drives, we came alive with incredible player performances. The results worked out, but I think there's a lot Coach Richt can still add into the offense. I'm not a fan of our route combinations, but I'll see that out of this thread.

      - Limited on time, I didn't get into Manny Diaz in that thread, but expected better from him yesterday. He still did ok for the majority of the game, but there were some philosophical things I disagreed on. Some of you know I'm a supporter of zone blitzes. I am not a supporter of zone blitzes as the repetitive staple of a defense when it's impractical. Many times yesterday, it was NOT practical. In fact, I think @HurricaneVision's play review will show we sometimes did better when we simply rushed 4 and made the FSU QB make plays. We had enough to be relatively simple against them and dominate.

      Again, while I appreciate zone blitz sprinkles, I don't want to eat a zone blitz steak for dessert. If you go back to my review of Coach Diaz (whose philosophy I'm a big supporter of and someone I think gives us a good chance overall), my concern was his desire to live off the blitz too often. I openly discussed with former poster GoldenShowers whether that was an issue of feeling like he needed it because of talent or not. Yesterday, we didn't "need" to blitz in some moments we did. It'd be unfair to say otherwise, as we got caught with someone like Trent Harris chasing downfield. Overall, though, as we'll get to below, he gave us a good enough chance to win against a good FSU offensive coaching staff and his players could have helped more, too.

      - Malik Rosier. During the Al Golden years, I constantly said "there is nothing worse than losing conservatively." It was painful. I just wanted us to play with balls and go down swinging. I didn't get to watch Malik in practice this spring or Fall, so I had no idea what to expect and therefore stayed out of predictions about what he'd do. I had noted in previous years he was inaccurate when I had watched him in practice. He's still inaccurate at times and that is completely overwhelmed by the simple fact he takes chances.

      Whether he costs us a game or not later in the season, I'll remember this dude as the MAN who broke the FSU streak. I saw some people calling him a "bytch" in the gameday thread. I don't understand this view. He runs for first downs and takes hits. He takes shots downfield. He's a tick slow in anticipation, but let's call out facts: he takes the chances needed to win games (and that's before the big game-winning throw). Probably the lasting memory I have of the game was Richt pointing to his own head telling Malik Rosier to "be smart" before our last offensive play. When FSU crowded the line, a friend and I told each other "just take a ****ing shot." He did. And, here we are.

      - Mark Walton. I feel for the guy. I'm sure he wanted to show out here, but I think we can reasonably see he's hobbled. Saw it a couple times when he cutback and they were anything but sharp. Get healthy and be ready for VTech, please. He did give us a handful of great pass blocks, which is why I imagine Richt kept him in there over Homer.

      Speaking of Travis Homer, he's up there as one of the top 5 most important guys in getting our W. Despite barely playing snaps. The runs in the 4th quarter were bigger than big. Breaking the tackle and getting the first down in that last drive saved critical seconds.

      - Ahmmon Richards wasn't used as I'd hoped. He pretty much was sent out there about the same as we've seen and wasn't provided too many motion or mismatch opportunities. Memory says he was held a ton and also missed a couple plays, but we absolutely need this guy. If we're going to be trotting out relatively simple concepts and relying on fundamentals, then we need superstars like this guy. Hope his hamstring or whatever was hobbling him gets better quickly. He changes everything for the entire offense, as I said in the key matchup thread.

      In the linked thread above, I said this: "If FSU is arrogant enough to toss Mcfadden at him in single coverage, I think Richards can have a breakout game against a "big name." I said this for a specific reason. Although talented, I think Mcfadden can be had. Big #81 helped reinforce that.

      - I don't think we used Chris Herndon enough. He showed up in our playcalls when we desperately needed it, but this is something I believe we should establish earlier. He doesn't need to run long-developing routes.

      - After the game, Lawrence Cager apparently said he'd played the worst game of his life. So, I guess I don't have to go in too deeply that he played small. It was disappointing. The big, flashy image he's projected needs to be matched by a guy who steps up in tough moments.

      - In the linked thread above, my lucky guess happened to come to fruition when I said: A key player matchup to watch here will be FSU's Kyle Meyers. He is very talented. I'd like to see him forced to read combination routes or get naturally picked off inside because he can hang athletically with all of our guys and probably has an [athletic] advantage on Berrios. I think Berrios can beat him on the underneath routes, though. Get him in whip routes and moving across the field, please. This is a call to Richt to throw out everything he's got against this DBackfield.

      The game basically came down to this matchup and we won because we won the matchup. Braxton Berrios will be a legend regardless of what he does going forward. Even draped in coverage at times, he made plays. The guy was laser focused and, as cheesy as it is to say, just wanted it more. Over and over. Amazing work. In terms of the bolded quote above about whip routes, I think it was arguably the most important play of the game. When we needed it most with time running out, Richt successfully called a whip route to Berrios, Malik put it on the money, and Berrios broke a tackle to get us in a position (the 25) to take a real shot. If that play doesn't happen, I doubt we toss one to the end zone and perhaps we don't even have enough time. It's the type of route I believe Berrios can consistently win, which is why I mentioned it before the game.

      - Our Offensive Line needs help in the run game against talented DL like FSU. Luckily, we may not face too many more. I would have liked to see a few more max protection schemes, as I had hoped for in the matchup thread. I would also like to see more motion. To run the ball effectively against equal talent, I think we have to concede will need a little more deception.

      - Our Defensive Line deserves a bunch of credit for keeping us in this game long enough for the offense to wake up. Frankly, I think their responsibilities should be simplified more often. When they were asked to rush 4, they mostly did their jobs, pushed the young FSU QB off his spot, etc. Just let these guys play. As I said above, I'm a fan of sprinkled in zone blitzes because I think the deception dictates to offenses. But, we don't need to rely on them and we don't need to consistently see Joe Jackson and Trent Harris chasing downfield. RJ Mcintosh played a great game. There were times other guys got the stat, but he made the play. Kendrick Norton also played well, and now probably has the outright record for most times held by an OL in a row. HOLY **** did that FSU team hold and claw. WOW! I mean, Chad Thomas' pads were almost taken off on one play.

      - I've talked about our LBs on other threads. Zack Mccloud is my favorite (not best) prospect and he's struggling some. Shaq isn't making the splash plays we expected. Pinckney has stood out to most above the others, but if you watch closely he also has gotten caught in the wash. Overall, the perception is part factual based on plays not made and a perception thing based on what was expected. Coach Diaz also needs to help them out with simplification. I'd like to see us man up less talented teams more often. In coverage on poorly timed zone blitzes, our guys are just not tight enough with the Safeties to be successful. My general thoughts on the LB situation in this ongoing thread: https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/...cloud/123170/2
      As I mentioned there, this is one area I expect to be fixed. Too many things in our favor here.

      - The corners expectedly did fine in this game. It was a solid matchup for them considering the FSU QB situation and what FSU does on offense. Obviously, we have issues at Nickel/Safety. In the linked key matchup thread above, I mentioned this as a potentially critical matchup. Well, we almost lost the game because our backup Safety made a poor play on an FSU slot. On that disastrous play, FSU ran their guy in motion to the bottom of the screen. Whether it was a miscommunication or whatever, Knowles robotically played the #2 WR (inside guy) who had been motioned over. He became the third defender on an underneath player. He left the vertical route completely clean. It was just a blown play where the Safety has to stay over the top and understand game situation.

      If Redwine had been in the game, I'd like to think this doesn't happen. But, such is football. Guys get hurt. We badly need him back! We have serious issues at Safety and it's actually hurting our LBs. Again, while I'm a Diaz supporter, this comes back to him. In a game like FSU, rely more on the front 4 and simplify the coverages behind it. I trust a lot of these things get cleaned up. I'm weary of our depth and Safety situation. It sends ripple effects throughout the defense.

      - My biggest observation is we played to win. Maybe it's the stench of the previous staff and the 7 year curse. But, this philosophy change cannot be understated. And, we despite any issues we've seen so far, we should be celebrating. Until tomorrow, when we go back to work and need to get up on GT quickly so we can protect our players from their bull****.
      Excellent write up!!!
    1. LuCane's Avatar
      LuCane -
      mydas77 said: View Post
      Cribby said: View Post
      Good stuff as usual.

      I fully agree especially with the zone blitz stuff. It's good when sprinkled but he uses at insane times. Which infuriates me, it actually almost lost us the game multiple times.

      I'm more of a man blitz kinda guy but like the zone blitzes he uses them at asinine times. He actually flirts with straight up wreckless / suicidal play calls. Bringing guys on third and forever from 20 yards off is just wreckless.

      It's like he just does it to say " hey, look how clever I am , I drew up this sophisticated blitz. I'm Jim Johnson and Dick Labeaus love child".

      Which is cute and all but will cost us games down the road , which it shouldn't. We have a good front that can get there without all this mess, less cute blitzes and more 4 man rush with 2 deep safety. Especially on third and forevers.
      I think he's not tyring to be cute. He is trying to force the hot throw by bring that blitz in those 3rd and long situations. It worked well against Duke towards the end of the game. It's risky, but that's what I think the thought process is. Dictate to the offense and make them take the short throw or be sacked. It's a hit or miss strategy so far.

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      That's exactly the philosophy, which is why I've answered to the "cute" narrative. It's just become a bit predictable and teams are schemed against it. Only part I have an issue with is yesterday it wasn't necessary. The FSU QB was essentially making single reads and our front 4 could have forced him to nervously make hot reads either way. Which they did at times. Again, I'm a Diaz supporter, but just trying to call it like I see it.
    1. k9cane's Avatar
      k9cane -
      Herndon is vastly underused. That's all I'll say and a more creative offensive system would take advantage of him in a myriad of different ways.

      As for the zone-blitzes, yeah, it's like ice cream, great for certain occassions but shouldn't be lunch or dinner, especially with the front four UM has
    1. mydas77's Avatar
      mydas77 -
      I am with you, but it's football. You are going to lose on some of those calls. Hopefully you win enough of them to justify the strategy. It hasn't costs us yet and I don't think there is a qb left on the schedule to truly hurt us by standing in there and attacking the DE.

      I am so giddy right now that I couldn't care less about what the Dolphins are doing. It's great to be a Miami Hurricane!!!

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    1. Cribby's Avatar
      Cribby -
      LuCane said: View Post
      mydas77 said: View Post
      Cribby said: View Post
      Good stuff as usual.

      I fully agree especially with the zone blitz stuff. It's good when sprinkled but he uses at insane times. Which infuriates me, it actually almost lost us the game multiple times.

      I'm more of a man blitz kinda guy but like the zone blitzes he uses them at asinine times. He actually flirts with straight up wreckless / suicidal play calls. Bringing guys on third and forever from 20 yards off is just wreckless.

      It's like he just does it to say " hey, look how clever I am , I drew up this sophisticated blitz. I'm Jim Johnson and Dick Labeaus love child".

      Which is cute and all but will cost us games down the road , which it shouldn't. We have a good front that can get there without all this mess, less cute blitzes and more 4 man rush with 2 deep safety. Especially on third and forevers.
      I think he's not tyring to be cute. He is trying to force the hot throw by bring that blitz in those 3rd and long situations. It worked well against Duke towards the end of the game. It's risky, but that's what I think the thought process is. Dictate to the offense and make them take the short throw or be sacked. It's a hit or miss strategy so far.

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      That's exactly the philosophy, which is why I've answered to the "cute" narrative. It's just become a bit predictable and teams are schemed against it. Only part I have an issue with is yesterday it wasn't necessary. The FSU QB was essentially making single reads and our front 4 could have forced him to nervously make hot reads either way. Which they did at times. Again, I'm a Diaz supporter, but just trying to call it like I see it.
      I'm not anti Diaz just anti stupid. I've actually been a fan of his for years. I know the purpose of his " cat " blitzes but coming from so far back and mix in knowing he shows it every week to nauseam is beyond crazy to me.

      I'm not even go in too hard on the occasional deep db blitz from so far back , which is ok against a more running style qb. Which why it worked a bit against Duke. Blackmon is more of a pocket guy so it makes it more silly.
    1. SFbayCane's Avatar
      SFbayCane -
      @LuCane - I completely agree on your note about Rosier being willing to take the shots necessary to win games. Thats something that should be mentioned.

      As I was watching yesterday and reading the WEZ game day comments about "If Kaaya were playing in this game...." I couldn't help but think of the countless 3rd downs where Kaaya would throw the ball away or throw it in the direction of a receiver but would throw it so far out of bounds that a catch wasn't possible. Kaaya always seemed to piss away drives. Rosier seems to have the opposite approach.
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      BigCaneAl -
      Nice job Lu. Couldn't agree more on the blitzing. I was furious we were vacating entire areas and giving them easy completions. Allowed him to get in a rhythm. Losing Redwine was beyond huge. Both touchdown passes in the 4th were directly on Knowles. He just can't be out there. We're going to have to figure something out quick if Redwine is out for an extended period of time. On another note, we absolutely need to tackle better. All their long runs were on missed tackles. They had zero push from their Oline, yet managed 200yds on the ground all on missed tackles and cutbacks. If Cook were still there he might have gone for 300.
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      Cribby -
      Btw when I use " cute" I'm meaning using a blitz to just use it.

      Every time we have third and long he tries one of these unnecessary blitzes in and gets burnt.

      It's like when I started playing madden as a kid , I had opponent in third / long and was like " hmmm , let me see what this blitz does since they can't get a first down " lol.
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      JHallCanes -
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      Good stuff man.

      Rule #1 don't read the gameday thread. Our fans are an embarrassment in those threads.


      I never thought I would say "DONT BLITZ" that many times in my life. The posters that said we shouldn't blitz earlier in the week were dead on. Making Blackman make reads was absolutely key early on. He couldn't do it. It was hard watching us give up big runs, but I agree with the approach for the most part.

      Our LBs need to be a lot better next week or GT is going to be a tougher game than we want. Our DL should carry us this year though.

      I remember the two-play combo we did to Herndon late in the game. That was one of those few times where I saw Richt take advantage of the defense. He figured out too late with Njoku last year so seeing him get Herndon involved was great, and seeing it succeed should help him calling plays. He's not Njoku, but he's plenty capable especially with Richard and Berrios playing at a high level.


      ****ing finally man. Finally. **** was killing me inside.
      This is what chaps my buttocks so much. Dude is running these idiotic blitzes to nauseam at stupid times. Against a qb that's scouting/ stats shows is great against the blitz but awful against defenses playing coverage. It's obvious you make the young guy go through progressions and wait for him to make mistakes.
      I admit I definitely wasn't notetaking yesterday at all. I was way way too hyped.

      Still, I ride with Manny all day and night. He actually seemed to show restraint early on but then got hyperaggressive when he didn't need to.

      I think I will echo what I and most other fans here have said though: I rather go down swinging.

      Good news is the D is strong but still so much more room for growth from coaching and personnel. I will take it.
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      Fawk_U Haters -
      I see nothing wrong with our scheme offensively and defensively.

      On D We need better safety play and LB play. We're running the exact same scheme as last year. Only difference is our LBs aren't making the simple plays they did last year (i swear they're guessing and trying to live up to the Bermuda hype on every play and our safeties don't cover ground like last year nor tackle well.

      On offense it's very simple. It's the OL silly. Everytime we go "stale" or "Richt" playcalling sucks and isn't creative it's usually because we're getting our boo boo pushed in up front. The second half yesterday our OL stood tall and played GREAT! That was a good front they faced, littered with NFL talent. They got beat up the first half, but in the second half they provided the extra tick tick tick that Rosier needed to make better throws and our guys to find an opening.

      We should all calm down about the scheme. HOnestly, while i do enjoy the long x's and o's talk with screen shots, some of those posts are just flat wrong.
    1. CaneClassic's Avatar
      CaneClassic -
      Thanks, Lu. These are my favorites threads.

      I think you nailed everything that frustrated me during the game.

      We got absolutely gashed on one of the zone blitzes, I think it was a big third down conversion to Izzo as Pinckney rushed the QB? The most painful of those "DON'T BLITZ" moments for me.

      Anybody calling Rosier soft has mush for brains.

      Get Herndon more involved! As Lu said, he was clutch in the fourth quarter but we ignored him for most of the game. Is this going to be like last year, when Richt remembers around Game 6 that he has a stud, NFL TE at his disposal?

      Bench Walton until he's better. Don't let him talk you into having him play. Homer needs to up his pass protection and be THE GUY for a couple of games. Walton will be ineffective against GT because it's too soon, and I don't think we need him for Syracuse and UNC. Take a break, kid!

      I'm a little worried about AR's hamstring. Hoping it wasn't a serious aggravation of the injury. His presence changes the complexion of our offense.

      ALSO, DARRELL FUGGIN' LANGHAM, BABY!
    1. AtrainCane's Avatar
      AtrainCane -
      Lu,

      One name Dj Dallas...u know what I'm talking about....he even looks for contact when he has the ball. Perfect guy to roam the secondary with speed and knock off heads or pick it off with his ball skills.
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      mackjones -
      This is ' off topic ' and all that. But I bet that the Cane dudes whom called Malik a ' bytch ' on Saturday, WON'T get warnings for TROLLING and whatnot. hUh.
    1. NJshoreCane's Avatar
      NJshoreCane -
      Thanks Lu.

      The defense played well.
      You can't "take away" plays but the 3 big runs went for about 110 yards.
      FSU went 40 carries for 93 yards on all other runs.
      Even when you minus out the sacks it's 37 for 105. Still less than 3 ypc.

      Glass half-full yes, but just wrap-up on the 4th quarter run and the perception is a bit different.
      That wouldn't have been any fun though. The :06 dagger was so much sweeter.

      Both Defenses were gassed in the end.
      If the last play was called down on the 6" line, does Richt go for the win in regulation?