CIS Mail Bag: Week 15

CIS Mail Bag: Week 15

Canes Legacy
Get prepped for Championship Saturday with a new edition of the CIS Mail Bag. This week we talk UNC, what ifs, and dive into the Royal Navy's flooding issues.

@ben (CanesInsight): This week's food question: who in the Canes athletic department can eat ****?

After an embarrassing loss, there is plenty of blame to go around. Embarrassment often leads to change and hopefully for us, this is the case. The extent of that change is TBD.

Anything in the athletic department starts and ends with Blake James. Manny Diaz is a success, James is a genius. Manny Diaz fails, James is fired (or at least should be for not conducting a real search). He was a year late in firing Al Golden and is 0-1 in his HC hiring with Richt not being what he thought he would be. Blake James’ future is tied to Manny Diaz. Next year will be year 3 and despite UNC, an 8-2 season is something to build off of provided Diaz makes the changes necessary.

@Canedog (CanesInsight): Eye’ve herd that wee shouldn’t take the vaccine four the Chi Com virus because it can chains yur DNA. If the vaccine can tern a person into a freakish mutant, why couldn’t it also chainge a person’s DNA in a positive way and make them skronger and bettor? If their is any chance the vaccine could change my DNA, and give me super powers, eye wood risk it. What dew ewe think about the vaccine?

People are going to have a tough decision to make. I’m a relatively young, healthy adult with no heart or lung conditions so I personally would not think about getting the vaccine until others do and I can see if it turns them into a mutant. If I was high risk, then I most likely would get the vaccine.

You bring up an interesting point though, why are all the side effects for medicines always negative? Take this if you have a runny nose but you may have explosive diarrhea. Take this if you have a headache and you may die of a heart attack. Why can’t they develop a cold medicine that also increases your "testosterone"?

@Canedog (CanesInsight): Inn these uncertain thymes, witch wood bee the bettor investment - gold, bitcoin, ore high caliber firearms?

You can never go wrong with high caliber firearms, but if you’re looking for a nice, lower risk investment than gold is your answer. Bitcoin did jump up this week and very well could be a high risk, high reward investment but I’m more of a safer investor. I would invest in a high caliber firearm to protect your gold.

@TheOriginalCane (CanesInsight): When will the UM BOT announce the search for a new university president?

This has the potential to have a big impact on the athletics programs for Miami. I don’t know if Frenk’s contract will be renewed but I think it’s safe to say while he was an upgrade from Shalalalalala, he may not be the president we need to take this program to the next level in terms of its investment to football. You hear a lot that Miami’s football problems go way beyond the HC and even the AD. Would a new President prioritize athletics and not settle for mediocrity? Perhaps but I would venture to guess, based on history, it would be more of the same regardless of the President.

@JD08 (CanesInsight): What's the story With Dr. Frenk? We haven't heard if his contract was renewed or not.

Unfortunately, we don’t have a sauce on the BOT but it would seem unusual to have a “lame duck” President right? Maybe Frenk doesn’t want to renew. Maybe the BOT doesn’t want him back with a falling ranking. Those rankings are trash by the way but I’m sure it’s something the suits like to brag about to their rich friends while sipping on expensive wine and indulging in their caviar.

@423Hurricane (CanesInsight): What bowl will we get and will we accept the invite?

It’s looking like the Cheez-It bowl as of now. It would be disappointing to see us decline the bowl invite and allow the season to end with the ass whooping that UNC delivered to us. I understand the players and even the coaches are exhausted from this Covid dominated season but if you are given an opportunity to play another game, why wouldn’t you?

@Baba Yaga (CanesInsight): How do I stop caring?

Emotions are high after what we witnessed on Saturday night and I fully understand fans throwing in the towel. However, this team is 8-2 and while those 2 losses were non-competitive type games, this program has taken a step forward and improved in many areas. We, as fans, put a lot of time, energy, and money into Miami Hurricanes Football so it hurts when the team comes out flat and gets pummeled. I won’t tell you what to do with your feelings but I would recommend reminding yourself what’s truly important in your life and not letting the Canes negatively impact those aspects. Just know that we will win the offseason again and we can repeat this next year.

@djnellz (CanesInsight): Are the UNC RBs still running on us?

I thought I saw Javonte Williams run over a Car(ter) on my way to work but my eyes could have deceived me. What happened against UNC was one of the most pathetic games I’ve seen the Canes play in my lifetime. The players played bad, the coaches coached bad, and UNC did not let up and I don’t blame them. The LB core got exposed yet again and the coaches couldn’t come up with an answer to stop the same play UNC was running again and again.

Blake Baker and his defense lost any goodwill left that a portion of the fan base still had for them. I believe we all saw the red flags throughout the year and even after Clemson, most said well it’s Clemson that’s what they do. I don’t believe there is any coming back from this performance. Manny has to see that and know that his defense needs to be tweaked and the coaching staff overhauled. This isn’t a championship level staff. I know that because they would rather start 53 poor performance after poor performance after poor performance. Great teams don’t start and play guys just because they’ve been with the program for 5 years.

@GojiraCane (CanesInsight): If Jalen Hurts had elected to sign with Miami in 2019, what effect do you think it would have had on last season? My suspicion is that while we still likely lose to Florida and North Carolina, replacing Williams with Hurts equates to wins against Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, and FIU. And a 9-2 Hurricanes squad heads into Duke with far more motivation, beating the Blue Devils as well. Does that mean Enos is still our OC, and that King still transfers?

A good QB changes the trajectory of any team/season. Jarren Williams, while talented, let the team down from a leadership standpoint multiple times last year. That doesn't happen with Hurts. If we end the season 9-2 last year, I highly doubt Manny makes widespread changes to the offensive side of the ball and all that momentum he built up in the offseason would have continued. Now, I think King is a smart guy and wouldn’t have come here to play in a pro style offense but we probably would have landed another portal guy or perhaps Jarren Williams would have learned from Hurts and matured into a legitimate starting QB. Eventually, Enos’ system would have caught up with us because we simply don’t have the OL to run that style of play. What happened last year was terrible but it was a blessing in that it forced Manny to bring us into the 21st century on offense. The offense took a giant leap forward statistically this year and I would expect more improvement next year if King comes back and the rest of the offense gets another offseason to perfect Lashlee’s system.

@GojiraCane (CanesInsight): Blast from the Past Question: Rusty Medearis - before his knee injury how high would Rusty have gone in the draft when turning pro?

Rusty was a stud. We talk a lot about what if’s as Cane fans because we saw a lot of promising careers end early due to injury or be permanently affected (not to mention those taken from us too soon), but maybe no player in Miami history had more taken from him on a football level when he hurt his knee back in 1992.

Rusty was an unstoppable force as a pass rusher, and no doubt would have only continued his assent to the elite of the college game had he been healthy in 92 and 93. He’d have entered the 1994 Draft as the #1 or #2 pass rusher available, with the only real competition being Willie McGinest.

Earliest he’d go would probably have been 4th to New England where Willie went (after Big Daddy Wilkinson, should have been a Cane-Marshall Faulk, and Heath Shuler). I want to say he’s have gone ahead of Trev Alberts at 5, just because Trev Alberts sucks. Worst case, he’d have gone 8 to Seattle to pair with reigning first team All Pro Cortez Kennedy instead of another DT in Sam Adams.

@GojiraCane (CanesInsight): Off Topic: Why is the Royal Navy experiencing flooding problems with both the Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales, and how long do you think it will be before the UK sells one of the carriers to India or France?

Their issues with flooding seem to be the result of shoddy pipe work in the ships. I can’t say I’m totally surprised, as I’ve long been in opposition to the British methods of shipbuilding. Sadly, this means they won’t be able to continue their very important actions, like randomly sailing around the ocean and looking at all of the places they used to have control over.

I think a sale is coming soon, simply due to the numbers. The man power of the British Navy dropped by nearly a quarter in the last 20 years, and there are 30 less ships than they had 40 years ago. The budget cuts in the BRN are consistent and debilitating, and there’s likely a point coming that they just wholesale accept that their significant influence over the sea has ended. People say the biggest enemy of being great is being good, and they might just give up when they realize soon that they’ll never be great again.
 

Comments (25)

The fact that you actually answered my question 🤣. You're alright in my book brother.

Fortunately I'm able compartmentalize the rollercoaster that is "The U" from the rest of my life. I watched most of last season sitting by my baby daughters isolette in the NICU and not once did a nurse have to ask me why I was crying. Pretty sure I could simultaneously ****-post in the game thread while plowing Mrs. Yaga, but she knows to keep her distance during a game. I know what you were getting at though.

I love the Miami Hurricanes, and it defies logic how much a shitty performance bothers me, but you can't help who you love right?
 
The fact that you actually answered my question 🤣. You're alright in my book brother.

Fortunately I'm able compartmentalize the rollercoaster that is "The U" from the rest of my life. I watched most of last season sitting by my baby daughters isolette in the NICU and not once did a nurse have to ask me why I was crying. Pretty sure I could simultaneously ****-post in the game thread while plowing Mrs. Yaga, but she knows to keep her distance during a game. I know what you were getting at though.

I love the Miami Hurricanes, and it defies logic how much a shitty performance bothers me, but you can't help who you love right?
For many of us, it’s difficult to compartmentalize our love for the Canes. It’s been a large part of our lives for many years. Love for the game factors in as well. As I’ve gotten older, I’m more able to put situations like the UNC game into proper perspective.
 
For many of us, it’s difficult to compartmentalize our love for the Canes. It’s been a large part of our lives for many years. Love for the game factors in as well. As I’ve gotten older, I’m more able to put situations like the UNC game into proper perspective.
I try to think about UNC in perspective...I remember when they beat us three straight under Butch. He was building a monster team, and by 2011 it had gone puff!

Mack Brown is 69. Is he building UNC into the next Clemson? Is it sustainable? Or is he recreating UT, where he always had talented teams but underachieved unless he had an NFL quarterback. Sam Howell is a Top 5 - maybe Number One overall 2022 pick. Will Sam’s successor? And what is UNC like when Mack retires in a few years?
 
Wonderful answer on the British carrier conundrum! Yes - Royal Navy spending has been one long march into near oblivion for nearly 60 years. Their two carriers don’t have enough planes yet, and they went with the cheaper, non catapult option in construction that pigeonholed them into having to buy very expensive F-35Bs. Their Surface Navy overall is Diminishing to the point where I think that carriers aside, Japan, Taiwan, and maybe Australia have bigger fleets.
 
The fact that you actually answered my question 🤣. You're alright in my book brother.

Fortunately I'm able compartmentalize the rollercoaster that is "The U" from the rest of my life. I watched most of last season sitting by my baby daughters isolette in the NICU and not once did a nurse have to ask me why I was crying. Pretty sure I could simultaneously ****-post in the game thread while plowing Mrs. Yaga, but she knows to keep her distance during a game. I know what you were getting at though.

I love the Miami Hurricanes, and it defies logic how much a shitty performance bothers me, but you can't help who you love right?

Posting while plowing out is a new one 😂

As much as we like to joke around, in all seriousness, we hope everything with your daughter is okay and she’s doing well.
 
The "side effects" for medicine are always negative because by law, if you're going to espouse the benefits of a pharmaceutical (in an advertisement), you're required to specify the potential detriments. That's also why we see commercials that are like "Take advantasyl. You'll do things, be a person and have good."

But I love the notion of positive side effects. Take propysomething... you'll breathe free and your dick will grow six inches!
 
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But I love the notion of positive side effects. Take propysomething... you'll breathe free and your dick will grow six inches!

0:20 is what you are looking for.
 
Age old question about a lovable board favorite, @fraggle - poRster or troll (or just plain old - which would explain a lot)?
 
"This has the potential to have a big impact on the athletics programs for Miami. I don’t know if Frenk’s contract will be renewed but I think it’s safe to say while he was an upgrade from Shalalalalala, he may not be the president we need to take this program to the next level in terms of its investment to football. You hear a lot that Miami’s football problems go way beyond the HC and even the AD. Would a new President prioritize athletics and not settle for mediocrity? Perhaps but I would venture to guess, based on history, it would be more of the same regardless of the President."

Wow. Everything about this puts an exclamation point on how tone deaf the fanbase is.

The University of Miami is a private school. Private school means private funding. Private funding means the Trustees run the show. You talk about problems and I'll ask about money. Do you have any idea what the dorms looked like ten years ago? Or how bad the Merrick classrooms were relative to tuition?

Any notion that Frenk is "better" than Shalalalala is laughable. She raised $3 billion for The U. And Frenk... well... he's a person. And doesn't care about football, at all. Not that it matters because, again, the Trustees run the show. She at least pretended to care about football. Does Frenk even go to games?

The crazy, maniacally laughable thing you all seem to think is that these people (referred to ignorantly as "the Administration") don't care about Miami football. People who literally donate millions... MILLIONS of dollars of their own money to the program. For what? So we can lose to UNC? The vast majority of you sit here, maybe buy a ticket, maybe buy a hat, and throw stones at the people who love The U like it was a child.

You guys, for the most part, at best, tailgate or game watch together 12 times a year. The people you're talking about either work, live or both on campus, every day all year long. And these are the people you try to blame. The people with actual influence on the program care much more than all of you do. I'm certain of it, because I lived, worked and studied at The U for four years. It's my F--KING HOME.

I'm sorry to break you the hard truth. I've witnessed if far more than the extreme vast majority of you have. You, the fans, talk about family, and despite your version of it being beautiful, you really don't understand what it means. Family looks like living, working and studying with the same people, in the same place, for years on end. The personal relationships developed from seeing someone damn near every single day. That's when you start to really care for someone and that's when you really start to make an effort for them.

For the real soldiers. The West End Zone types, who are there game-in, game-out, buying arepas and no-block parking... this isn't about you. Y'all are family.

The real, serious problems about this perspective on Hurricane football (and the current reality of it) are:

1. The fans feel entitled to the football program being good, with utter disregard to the University,
2. Any notion that athletics should be prioritized, over making the degree I spent a stupid amount of money on becoming stronger, is absolutely and completely insane. I was a freshman in 2001. I live and breathe Hurricane everything, but the University is more important than the football program. If you're not a booster or alum telling me how my degree should be benefited, you can kindly f--k right off.
3. The fans are unwilling to contribute to athletics (or the University in general) because they don't have the connection with it alumni do. Vested interest. A million living Floriduh alums vs. 100K Miami is a very, very big difference in donations. A highly international alumni base compounds this problem.

What every non-alumni, non-employee, non-booster fails to realize is that you guys are not what is keeping the lights on, and Miami has bigger fish to fry than football. If you want to change it, open up your check books and write a donation to Miami Athletics.

Hate it all you want but this is reality.
 
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You should have stopped right there and the entire (correct) point you made would have been summed up in this one sentence.

People really need to change their expectations. Its 2020, not 1987.

You're my new favorite person, Brother.

But I disagree about expectations. We can and should expect to be elite in football. We just shouldn't be whiny little b!tches when things don't go our way for real, tangible reasons.
 
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You're my new favorite person, Brother.

But I disagree about expectations. We can and should expect to be elite in football. We just shouldn't be whiny little b!tches when things don't go our way for real, tangible reasons.
Exactly, thats what I meant. Can you expect your team to be elite? Sure. But the environment of College Football is so horribly focused on teams spending large amounts of money (that they just have), our margin for error is much smaller. Expect that too.

Its developing more and more into David vs. Goliath.
 
Exactly, thats what I meant. Can you expect your team to be elite? Sure. But the environment of College Football is so horribly focused on teams spending large amounts of money (that they just have), our margin for error is much smaller. Expect that too.

Its developing more and more into David vs. Goliath.

Very well said. The interesting thing is it was David vs. Goliath in 1983. It's kind of always been that.

But anymore... David is getting very, very small, and Goliath learned his lessons.
 
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Very well said. The interesting thing is it was David vs. Goliath in 1983. It's kind of always been that.

But anymore... David is getting very, very small, and Goliath learned his lessons.
Miami used to have the advantage of being the underdog that plays football in the modern way. Teams like Nebraska ran old offenses compared to Miamis pro style passing game.

That gap isnt there anymore, if anything, Miami adjusted late.
 
Miami used to have the advantage of being the underdog that plays football in the modern way. Teams like Nebraska ran old offenses compared to Miamis pro style passing game.

That gap isnt there anymore, if anything, Miami adjusted late.

And recruiting. And resources.

I'll readily agree that the BoT mismanaged football, but any notion they don't care is laughable.
 
"This has the potential to have a big impact on the athletics programs for Miami. I don’t know if Frenk’s contract will be renewed but I think it’s safe to say while he was an upgrade from Shalalalalala, he may not be the president we need to take this program to the next level in terms of its investment to football. You hear a lot that Miami’s football problems go way beyond the HC and even the AD. Would a new President prioritize athletics and not settle for mediocrity? Perhaps but I would venture to guess, based on history, it would be more of the same regardless of the President."

Wow. Everything about this puts an exclamation point on how tone deaf the fanbase is.

The University of Miami is a private school. Private school means private funding. Private funding means the Trustees run the show. You talk about problems and I'll ask about money. Do you have any idea what the dorms looked like ten years ago? Or how bad the Merrick classrooms were relative to tuition?

Any notion that Frenk is "better" than Shalalalala is laughable. She raised $3 billion for The U. And Frenk... well... he's a person. And doesn't care about football, at all. Not that it matters because, again, the Trustees run the show. She at least pretended to care about football. Does Frenk even go to games?

The crazy, maniacally laughable thing you all seem to think is that these people (referred to ignorantly as "the Administration") don't care about Miami football. People who literally donate millions... MILLIONS of dollars of their own money to the program. For what? So we can lose to UNC? The vast majority of you sit here, maybe buy a ticket, maybe buy a hat, and throw stones at the people who love The U like it was a child.

You guys, for the most part, at best, tailgate or game watch together 12 times a year. The people you're talking about either work, live or both on campus, every day all year long. And these are the people you try to blame. The people with actual influence on the program care much more than all of you do. I'm certain of it, because I lived, worked and studied at The U for four years. It's my F--KING HOME.

I'm sorry to break you the hard truth. I've witnessed if far more than the extreme vast majority of you have. You, the fans, talk about family, and despite your version of it being beautiful, you really don't understand what it means. Family looks like living, working and studying with the same people, in the same place, for years on end. The personal relationships developed from seeing someone damn near every single day. That's when you start to really care for someone and that's when you really start to make an effort for them.

For the real soldiers. The West End Zone types, who are there game-in, game-out, buying arepas and no-block parking... this isn't about you. Y'all are family.

The real, serious problems about this perspective on Hurricane football (and the current reality of it) are:

1. The fans feel entitled to the football program being good, with utter disregard to the University,
2. Any notion that athletics should be prioritized, over making the degree I spent a stupid amount of money on becoming stronger, is absolutely and completely insane. I was a freshman in 2001. I live and breathe Hurricane everything, but the University is more important than the football program. If you're not a booster or alum telling me how my degree should be benefited, you can kindly f--k right off.
3. The fans are unwilling to contribute to athletics (or the University in general) because they don't have the connection with it alumni do. Vested interest. A million living Floriduh alums vs. 100K Miami is a very, very big difference in donations. A highly international alumni base compounds this problem.

What every non-alumni, non-employee, non-booster fails to realize is that you guys are not what is keeping the lights on, and Miami has bigger fish to fry than football. If you want to change it, open up your check books and write a donation to Miami Athletics.

Hate it all you want but this is reality.
All most people see is a large donation that names a building. Alumni write checks to increase the value of their degree and that's what counts, both in dollar amount and number of donors. Right or wrong, that's part of a university's ranking.
 
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And recruiting. And resources.

I'll readily agree that the BoT mismanaged football, but any notion they don't care is laughable.
Imagine spending a million bucks in a car that cant drive and go "Oh well, I dont care".
 
All most people see is a large donation that names a building. Alumni write checks to increase the value of their degree and that's what counts, both in dollar amount and number of donors. Right or wrong, that's part of a university's ranking.

I know you know what you're talking about. But it's not just that. It's the system of sourcing donations. And it's really not much different from a "P-word" that definitely does not rhyme with "analytics" though others might somehow see it differently. Miami is just surviving.

When you live The University of Miami, your primary objective is always to see everyone around you elevate and do better. That's what family looks like. I'm gonna look after you.

As for the ranking.... I get that people seem to care about it, but if you understand what goes into the especially US News... it's definitely not all about academic prowess.
 
Imagine spending a million bucks in a car that cant drive and go "Oh well, I dont care".

This is apt. But I'll take it a step further.

Imagine buying a stake in an NFL team and not caring about wins.

That's what a private university looks like.

It's us, USC and Notre Dame. Both have substantially larger endowments and alumni bases.
 

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